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End-to-End Encryption

46 pointsby DaveWalkalmost 10 years ago

7 comments

jtoljalmost 10 years ago
I was excited about this for a moment, since I was a big fan of Pushbullet before they decided to &quot;evolve&quot; into a messaging app.<p>I used it simply to send links between my phone&#x2F;browser and to occasionally send a link via SMS. I would have happily paid for this functionality.<p>In a recent update, it became impossible to send SMS from the browser without also syncing your entire SMS history (images included) to their server without end-to-end encryption, so I nuked my account.<p>I just signed up again to test this out, and I didn&#x27;t get very far before I realized they are still storing all my MMS images on their server un-encrypted.<p>Here&#x27;s one from my SMS history: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dl.pushbulletusercontent.com&#x2F;KWevdTT0b4Fe92yukWHDKlo0sHHtbWHq&#x2F;436" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dl.pushbulletusercontent.com&#x2F;KWevdTT0b4Fe92yukWHDKlo...</a><p>I just &quot;cleared my history&quot; and deleted my account and the link still works, so we&#x27;ll have to see how long my data stays on their server. I&#x27;m going to assume indefinitely :(.
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h4waiialmost 10 years ago
Who exactly is getting behind using a closed-source service where a main developer can&#x27;t understand the benefits of end-to-encryption, nor how it actually works? -&gt; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;Android&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3bplym&#x2F;hey_randroid_pb_dev_here_lets_talk_about_endtoend&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;Android&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3bplym&#x2F;hey_randroi...</a><p>Same as WhatsApp+Axolotl. Is it implemented properly? Is it flawed on purpose?<p>iMessage? What&#x27;s stopping Apple from simply inserting new keys? They completely control the infrastructure and implementation.<p>Both a very big false sense of security, as is PushBullet&#x27;s E2E.
DaveWalkalmost 10 years ago
To note is that 1) the encryption is not set by default, 2) it is closed source, and 3) it&#x27;s a VC-backed company without an option for users to pay for the service.
atomialmost 10 years ago
Reddit thread <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;Android&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3gl2yj" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;Android&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3gl2yj</a>
therealmarvalmost 10 years ago
NO encryption for custom data send to yourself or to others! Read the blogpost carefully.
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Canadaalmost 10 years ago
So it&#x27;s: Password -&gt; KDF -&gt; Key+Plaintext -&gt; AES-CGM.<p>Better than nothing, but just that isn&#x27;t very secure. It&#x27;s not safe to use the same key indefinitely.
RandomBKalmost 10 years ago
It&#x27;s good to see Pushbullet release such an important feature as part of the standard product. I&#x27;ve seen many other products stuff encryption and other important security features into the premium&#x2F;enterprise package under a &quot;consumers don&#x27;t care about this&quot; mentality...
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