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Ask HN: Why is HN not mobile friendly yet?

97 pointsby AliAdamsover 9 years ago
I know this gets asked all the time, but to me, the more the question is asked, the more meaningful the lack of response is.<p>Why isn&#x27;t HN updated for viewing on a mobile?<p>- I would wager a vast number of users use their mobile to view the site (or at least want to) - The change required is tiny; I&#x27;m sure even I&#x27;m this thread someone will be able to propose the optimal change to make. - Varied screen sizes are not going to go away so the change needs to be made at some point - It seems fundamentally against the ethos of a company like YC to not adapt to the changing needs of their user base<p>I&#x27;m sure there are more, but I think that is enough.<p>Can someome explain to me (and the others asking) why this hasn&#x27;t already been done and, more importantly if this will ever happen?

26 comments

dangover 9 years ago
Yes, it will happen. Yes, we&#x27;re working on it. The reasons it&#x27;s taking so long are: (1) the change required is not tiny; and (2) everyone working on it has many other things to do, most of which are more pressing.<p>That doesn&#x27;t make it a low priority (it&#x27;s a high priority), but it means we have to do it as a background process.
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minimaxirover 9 years ago
&gt; <i>The change required is tiny; I&#x27;m sure even I&#x27;m this thread someone will be able to propose the optimal change to make. </i><p>Apparently, it&#x27;s not tiny, which was the response that came up the last time.<p>...the last time was about two years ago: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=7330107" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=7330107</a><p>They did roll out a tiny mobile fix in March: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9206427" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=9206427</a>
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d--bover 9 years ago
Maybe, YC is trying to teach you something about product building. Something like: &quot;we don&#x27;t make our site mobile friendly because the content is so good that people still use it on their phone even if they have to zoom in a little. The day when people stop coming to hacker news or apply to YC because it&#x27;s not mobile friendly, then we might do something about it. Otherwise it&#x27;s just a waste of time and money for us.&quot; In other words: don&#x27;t rush into building everything people ask you to do, they might not really need it.<p>It&#x27;s probably not what they intend to do... But still worth thinking about ;)
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bartweover 9 years ago
I&#x27;ve found this site as one of the easier to use ones on mobile?
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alpbover 9 years ago
In the meanwhile, this is super mobile and tablet-friendly: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;cheeaun.github.io&#x2F;hackerweb&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;cheeaun.github.io&#x2F;hackerweb&#x2F;</a> I&#x27;ve been using it for more than a year now and I nearly never visit it Hacker News directly on mobile.
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teekertover 9 years ago
I use <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;cheeaun.github.io&#x2F;hackerweb&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;cheeaun.github.io&#x2F;hackerweb&#x2F;</a><p>Some time ago Hackernews was mobile ready for a short time, there were a lot of complaints (I can&#x27;t find the thread at the moment). I guess the HN philosophy is to keep it as basic and simple as possible and leave the rest to 3rd parties.
kancheover 9 years ago
I miss easy navigation features of a desktop browser when opening HN website in mobile browsers.<p>My flow is - I go through the submissions in a page, and when I like one, most of the time I open the story and its comments page both - in separate tabs. I read the story first and the switch to the next tab to read the comments. When I have completed all the tabs, I go to the next HN page. In mobile it&#x27;s pretty cumbersome to navigate among tabs.<p>I seldom use the mobile site, I find the HN reader app by premii[1] the best suited for me.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.premii.hn" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;play.google.com&#x2F;store&#x2F;apps&#x2F;details?id=com.premii.hn</a>
ipsum2over 9 years ago
<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ihackernews.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;ihackernews.com&#x2F;</a> is a suitable alternative that&#x27;s mobile friendly.
dawkinsover 9 years ago
with a few css media query rules it would be usable. I always wonder the same.
DanBCover 9 years ago
Anytime they try to make changes there are hundreds of complaints about those changes.<p>Many people on mobile only want a bit more separation between the vote buttons. That would make accidental downvotes harder, and would encourage upvoting.<p>Personally, I&#x27;d like text that was a bit larger and text that reflowed, but I know other people might hate that.
threatofrainover 9 years ago
I wonder if mobile web is really ready. I think on mobile, people prefer the fullness that comes with native apps, including UI features like back&#x2F;undo on Android, which is maybe why 37 Signals, once a staunch advocate of mobile web apps, decided to release native versions of their app after a few years. In default mobile browsers, the back button is not the same thing as &quot;undo&quot; in Android.
RickSover 9 years ago
I&#x27;d be happy to help with this, and I&#x27;m surely not the only one. Then again, I&#x27;m sure that lack of bandwidth isn&#x27;t the reason.
DanBCover 9 years ago
One change that could be made is to wrap very long unbroken lines.<p>Visiting &#x2F;comments when someone has left a post with a very long unbroken line will break the site.<p>Browsers are oddly broken for mobile. Here&#x27;s what text entry looks like on Chrome for iOS - <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;gjLdS6A" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;gjLdS6A</a>
MichaelGGover 9 years ago
The change should be done in the browser. It&#x27;s just dumb that we don&#x27;t have reflow in Firefox mobile. Chrome seems to do it fine (but lack of adblock makes it my non default browser).<p>News.yc is a simple, easy site. Browsers should just work on it.
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teaneedzover 9 years ago
I&#x27;m not sure about HN&#x27;s reason, but I&#x27;ve found the Boreal app for iOS to be a great responsive solution for reading HN. The dev&#x27;s are responsive and their app has me here more often now because of it.
ajonitover 9 years ago
Hacker News(YC) is a fully featured free app for iOS. It allows for commenting, upvoting and submitting news. Not sure about Android though. Not sure what %age of junta use the web version on mobile?
brad0over 9 years ago
If you&#x27;re on iOS and want an app I would suggest Akepa. Amazing app.
DiabloD3over 9 years ago
There is a ton of HN apps on Android, but all I want is the ability to post comments, post stories, and possibly support the Android share API so I can just send URLs to HN directly from Chrome.
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zhaover 9 years ago
I have installed UC Browser on my android just for HN. Double tap for zoom and the text adjusts to the width.<p>Older versions of android stock browser used to act this way, but latest chrome on android does not.
jonasvpover 9 years ago
There&#x27;s a few mobile-friendly versions of Hacker News, using the API. I prefer <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.premii.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.premii.com</a>
bastijnover 9 years ago
Thanks for the boreal reference. Finally an app that can actually login an post comments. Beautiful app so far. Though I can&#x27;t find the reply to comment option.
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kevinSuttleover 9 years ago
I asked a long time ago about open-sourcing the front-end, and was brushed off. It&#x27;d get done a lot faster if you allowed experienced users to help.
RivieraKidover 9 years ago
HN is written in an obscure variant of Lisp, perhaps that is the problem? There&#x27;s been practically zero development since the site was created.
neelkadiaover 9 years ago
Because its not made for mobile? It demands we sit at our Desktops and Start workstation and explore!
Squir-Relover 9 years ago
Responsive design to adjust column width might be useful.
aharonovichover 9 years ago
there&#x27;s (at least one) great app.