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Elephants Shot with Poison Arrows Travel to Humans for Help

221 pointsby ghoshover 9 years ago

9 comments

Mzover 9 years ago
Science is about skepticism. Being an anti-believer who knee jerk pisses on the idea that this could possibly be true is no more scientific than the people who accept assertions uncritically.<p>It matters relatively little whether it was actually poachers or some other human. We can be fairly certain it was actually humans that injured the animals. I also think it is not hugely important whether the animals went there intentionally seeking medical care or happened to end up in the right place. I think the most important detail of this story is that the elephants apparently <i>cooperated</i> with the humans that treated them, after being injured by other humans. I think that is huge and really hopeful.
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dpflanover 9 years ago
Great story. In the &quot;Animal Minds&quot; episode, Radiolab recounts a story of divers saving a net-entangled whale, and the whale in turn &quot;thanks&quot; each diver. It&#x27;s a good show, and the examples included are thought-provoking. If you found this story intriguing, I recommend giving this Radiolab episode a listen. If not, the stories leads to what is intelligence and connection possibilities across species, and the topic of Spindle Neurons is presented which are explored as a connection between high and low order parts of the brain. (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Spindle_neuron" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Spindle_neuron</a>)<p>_<p>The Goods:<p>1. The episode: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.radiolab.org&#x2F;story&#x2F;91701-animal-minds&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.radiolab.org&#x2F;story&#x2F;91701-animal-minds&#x2F;</a><p>2. A related follow-up about whales: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.radiolab.org&#x2F;story&#x2F;149761-whale-saying-thank-you&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.radiolab.org&#x2F;story&#x2F;149761-whale-saying-thank-you&#x2F;</a>
codybover 9 years ago
That&#x27;s a beautiful story if it is indeed the case. It seems absolutely conceivable to me that an intelligent species could mark places as safe havens.<p>Poachers are really shitty.
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vertisover 9 years ago
The original report (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sheldrickwildlifetrust.org&#x2F;updates&#x2F;updates.asp?Rhino=&amp;ID=849" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sheldrickwildlifetrust.org&#x2F;updates&#x2F;updates.asp?R...</a>) which someone else linked is much more interesting.<p>While it definitely claims that the Elephants come to DSWT for help, it stops short of claiming that the arrows came from poachers.<p>Indeed, I have to wonder what the survival rate is for Elephants that come into contact with poachers? The report suggests that ~10 Elephants were treated with Arrow wounds. This seems quite disconnected from the intent of poachers (kill them), and more in line with the intent of farmers (drive them away).<p>I&#x27;m not saying it wasn&#x27;t poachers (I don&#x27;t know the subject well enough to claim anything like that). It just seems odd to me for a poacher to do that.
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etepover 9 years ago
Digging in to this by searching for other related stories, in brief, my findings:<p>1. So far, no direct corroboration. Not even on the DSWT website. 2. Poachers do appear to use poison arrows&#x2F;darts. 3. DSWT appears to be the real deal, i.e. not a phony wildlife sanctuary.<p>I buy it that the elephants would go there. I&#x27;d like to see a better write up. Agreed that the article, as such, is a bit weak.
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adamnemecekover 9 years ago
Furthermore if you live in Washington state, please support Initiative 1401 (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;saveanimalsfacingextinction.org" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;saveanimalsfacingextinction.org</a>) on the November ballot. This initiative would help with reducing the amount of illegal ivory coming to the US. Washington state is a strategic state because a lot of illegal ivory comes to the US from China and Washington has large ports so restricting it in Washington state will go pretty far. California has already passed a similar law.<p>We are also looking for volunteers who would help out with the campaign outreach efforts. If you are in Washington state and have 2 hours of free time every now and then and want to help out, email me at adamnemecek at gmail.com.<p>Furthermore, over at &#x2F;r&#x2F;babyelephantgifs, we&#x27;ve been running a fundraiser to help some conservation organizations, you can read more about it here <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;babyelephantgifs&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3gppt7&#x2F;hey_baby_elephant_fans_today_is_world_elephant&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;babyelephantgifs&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3gppt7&#x2F;he...</a><p>You should for example consider donating to the International Anti-Poaching Foundation[0][1] which fights the poachers. The founder, Damien Mander[2], is an Australian ex spec-ops sniper who is using his military experience to train the park rangers since they, unlike the poachers, tend to be poorly equipped and trained as well as understaffed.<p>There is also the David Sheldrick Wildlife Trust[3][4] which takes care of elephant and rhino orphans (most of whom are orphans due to poaching). For $50 a year, you can become a sponsor of a particular animal and they&#x27;ll send you photos and updates about how your sponsored animal is doing. You can for example sponsor this little fella [5]who was rescued a while back. This sponsorship is a pretty great gift.<p>[0] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iapf.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.iapf.org&#x2F;en&#x2F;</a><p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;International_Anti-Poaching_Foundation" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;International_Anti-Poaching_Fo...</a><p>[2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Damien_Mander" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Damien_Mander</a><p>[3] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sheldrickwildlifetrust.org" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sheldrickwildlifetrust.org</a><p>[4] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;David_Sheldrick_Wildlife_Trust" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;David_Sheldrick_Wildlife_Trust</a><p>[5] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;instagram.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;4uSGkzgUK7&#x2F;?taken-by=dswt" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;instagram.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;4uSGkzgUK7&#x2F;?taken-by=dswt</a>
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disordinaryover 9 years ago
The more we learn about other animals the less superior we should feel, it&#x27;s now perfectly clear that there is nothing divine about human beings, and there is no magical spark that makes us better than other animals.
aaron695over 9 years ago
When I saw this was on Reddit a day or so ago, I thought thank goodness for HN and people not getting sucked into BS :(
bmsleight_over 9 years ago
Wow big leaps in the article, big assumptions. With little backing for the assumptions.<p>Excuse the pun, but I call &quot;Bull&quot;
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