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Ad blocking “controversy” just foolishness

20 pointsby elialbertover 9 years ago

3 comments

thomaskcrover 9 years ago
My feeling is that the current model adds liquidity to the internet. Paywall sites are annoying now as it is, I get frustrated when I click an interesting title and can&#x27;t read the article. I really don&#x27;t see how not being able to access huge swaths of the internet without managing your subscriptions is better than just having ads on the screen. Ads mean you just don&#x27;t need to worry about it.<p>I remember seeing tons of this image (tiered internet: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gacetadigital.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;2010&#x2F;12&#x2F;TieredInternet.jpg" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.gacetadigital.com&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;2010&#x2F;12&#x2F;TieredIntern...</a>) used to scare people about net neutrality and yet this seems to be what a lot of these proposals boil down to.<p>The other ideas are nice, but they just add to the cost of monetizing your content. The advantage of ad networks was not having to spend time negotiating advertising or finding a vendor for shirts.<p>I think there is a compromise version of an ad-blocker that just freezes all animation -- that seems to be the biggest complaint that can be reasonably addressed. Privacy can be addressed by targeting ads based on the content of the page and possibly proxying the ad content through that server so the ad network never gets the request directly from a client. Since most ads only pay for a click instead of a view anyway I think confirming an ad loaded is becoming less of an issue from the other side.
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shopinterestover 9 years ago
The larger issue is this, the AdBlockers block &#x27;independent ads, served via third party services via web&#x27; Ad blockers won&#x27;t block Google Ads via Android or iOS ads in their new &quot;news&quot; apps. Nor it will block Facebook ads, YouTube Ads or some in-app marketing.<p>So, what I think is missing in the discussion that, perhaps by flaw or mistake, but the original sin of the web (ads) is now the currency for many websites, apps, etc... and it maintains the small, medium and large publishers and companies.<p>Ad blocking as-now targets the independent web more than anything. It will force Advertisers to give to Google&#x2F;Facebook&#x2F;Apple more and basically just suck the revenues of an industry into the hands of a handful of platform. Content has already been centralized by force, now they want the ads as well.<p>People who say, &#x27;if your content requires ads then its not worth it, or you are in the wrong side of history, blah, blah, blah&#x27; fail to recognize how ad monetization happens on web&#x2F;apps - yes it gets annoying, but it works. Independent sites (arts, news, etc...) like a favorite of mine ArsTechnica, depend on Ad revenue.<p>Apple releasing Ad Blockers the same day their News app becomes permanent and with Ads that cannot be blocked its not a coincidence. And that is quite a strategic move aimed to move more ad revenue into fewer companies. I don&#x27;t know if that&#x27;s the right side of history then. I hope not.<p>However, it&#x27;s all in the defaults - 90% of online users (and I cant imagine app users are any higher) never touch the defaults. Sure, a number of 20MM may have downloaded adblockers online, but it is still small. But once the option is there, one day, the iPhone7 might default to &#x27;ad block yes&#x27; and obliterate a mobile ad industry. No one likes to defend marketers, but moving us to a system controlled by a few platforms is a bad idea. Say, a presidential election could be influenced by a company deciding it won&#x27;t allow ads of candidate Y or Z etc... or Donation campaigns won&#x27;t be able to afford a market price of higher ad prices.<p>This is a bad idea folks.
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elialbertover 9 years ago
long time lurker, first time poster here. curious to hear opinions on this piece I just wrote. thanks!
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