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32-bit kdb+ free for non-commercial use only

29 pointsby bladecatcherover 9 years ago

7 comments

vbezhenarover 9 years ago
&gt; The free version has been a boon for many, but some are using it in ways it was not intended, and we felt Kx was exposing itself to a legal risk because the free version is unsupported.<p>I wonder what do they mean? What&#x27;s not intended way and what&#x27;s a legal risk they are talking about?<p>&gt; HOWEVER, if you downloaded the free version of 32-bit kdb+ prior to September 13, 2015, you are free to use it for commercial use.<p>I don&#x27;t understand how someone can prove that he downloaded it prior to September 13. Those are extremely confusing terms.
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bladecatcherover 9 years ago
This is so disappointing! It was made free for commercial use last year, and was discussed on HN - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=7522327" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=7522327</a>
sashkover 9 years ago
Unfortunately, their license comes in disagreement with what they posted on kxcommunity.com:<p>&gt; That&#x27;s why it now can only be used in a commercial environment for development and proofs of concept.<p>But license says:<p>&gt; 1.1. &quot;Commercial Use&quot; means any use of the 32 Bit Kdb+ Software for the User or any third party&#x27;s financial gain or other economic benefit. Any Beta-testing or production use of a User Application is Commercial Use. Notwithstanding the foregoing, the following are not Commercial Uses: (a) use solely for educational or personal purposes; (b) use by a registered charity or licensed educational institution, (c) development of a proof-of-concept application, even in a commercial setting; and (d) any use for which Kx has granted the User written permission.<p>This makes things confusing: one place they say development is ok, but in license agreement they say it&#x27;s only &quot;proof-of-concept applications&quot;...
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nickpsecurityover 9 years ago
This kind of BS is a perfect example of why, when pushing for proprietary OSS, I always note it will take special protections for users. Many might try to do OSS temporarily just to freeload on users for code or marketing. So, have to be clear + firm on use cases while including terms to ensure community&#x27;s involvement will keep paying off. At least they&#x27;re letting those who were involved keep the free copy. The QNX community situation was worse IIRC...
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lukaslalinskyover 9 years ago
I&#x27;m honestly surprised there are still people willing to trust their data to a &quot;trial&quot; version of a commercial database. I thought the FoundationDB situation was such a nice example that people would learn from it.
bbanycover 9 years ago
For what it&#x27;s worth, most of kx&#x27;s customers (including the one I work for) have datasets much larger than 4 GB, making the 32-bit edition practically worthless for production use.
ilakshover 9 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;kevinlawler&#x2F;kona" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;kevinlawler&#x2F;kona</a>