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A contender for the most effective development program in history

44 pointsby nolsover 9 years ago

8 comments

wodenokotoover 9 years ago
The program sounds great, but, in order to call it the most effective program, it would be nice if he compared it to other projects.<p>How much does building a well in a village give in return? How much did this program actually give in return? While it spawned more companies than not giving out money, do these additional companies produce more wealth, than was spent on the program?
aaronharnlyover 9 years ago
It doesn&#x27;t have to be either-or. There is room to support entrepreneurship programs and direct cash aid to the poorest and antimalarial nets and civil society programs. The one lesson the past century of international development efforts should have taught us is that there is no single silver bullet. A complex web of measures, not all of them spectacularly successful, may not fit in a blog post or a TED talk, but neither does the world and its complexities.
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AndrewOMartinover 9 years ago
I don&#x27;t know what a reasonable cash burn rate is for a Nigerian entrepreneur, but is it possible that $50,000 simply lasts three years? I expect not but can someone put my mind at rest?
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llamatabootover 9 years ago
Counterpoint - Ory Okolloh explains why Africa can’t entrepreneur itself out of its basic problems <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;qz.com&#x2F;502149&#x2F;video-ory-okolloh-explains-why-africa-cant-entrepreneur-itself-out-of-its-basic-problems&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;qz.com&#x2F;502149&#x2F;video-ory-okolloh-explains-why-africa-c...</a>
radu_floricicaover 9 years ago
&gt; But 7000 people earning $7 a day they might not have earned otherwise—that is something.<p>That&#x27;s actually 17 mil per year, or a little less than the original 60 mil after 3 years. So far it&#x27;s the typical communist economy: pay people to work, based not on their market value but on some other criteria (ideology? a scoring scheme?).
maratdover 9 years ago
Is the math right?<p>7000 (new jobs) * $7 (salary per day) * 365 (days per year) = $17,885,000<p>So that&#x27;s 18 million dollars. You spent 60 million dollars to create jobs that pull in 18 million dollars per year?<p>That&#x27;s optimistically assuming those are full time jobs where the worker spends every single day of the year working AND that those jobs would not be created otherwise.
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dpc_pwover 9 years ago
How can one not see how much bullshit that is?<p>The very same program in European Union is called &quot;Innovative Economy Programme&quot; (website of it&#x27;s Poland implementation):<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.poig.2007-2013.gov.pl&#x2F;english&#x2F;Strony&#x2F;Introduction.aspx" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.poig.2007-2013.gov.pl&#x2F;english&#x2F;Strony&#x2F;Introduction...</a><p>It was just one huge fraud-fest. You apply for a grant, making something completely useless, but with enough bullshit, that government minion can&#x27;t tell. You make it &quot;online&quot; (a website), so it&#x27;s &quot;innovative&quot;. Bullshiting the grant is the hardest part - takes time, and creativity to write a good bullshit story. But! there are whole companies that do it for your, with a lot of experience how to bullshit government. Typical examples of projects are: social website for cat owners, something for e-commerce. Essentially just simple PHP websites with fancy names, and jargon to confuse the government.<p>You get free money ($50k and more), you buy yourself TV, new PC, HD projector, and all the stuff you want. You put it into company expenses, but use to play games in your free time. You hire a CS student to make the actual website for like $1000. You pay yourself a nice salary for &quot;maintenance&quot; and fake statistics of usage. After 5 years, when the government is off your back, you close the &quot;company&quot;.<p>Or you have your normal company, you open a &quot;fake one&quot; with a grant, and suck all the resources into your normal company, keeping the fake company afloat for just couple of years to close it eventually due to lack of profitability.<p>It&#x27;s not even hard to cheat like this, as government does not care. They want the stats to look good, so they can pretend like they&#x27;re &quot;helping the economy&quot;. Last thing they want is the stupidity of such program to be exposed. There are other programs: for mothers returning to workforce, for people with disabilities, etc. etc. And there are all just one big transfer of public money to fraudsters.<p>So yeah, I&#x27;m sure in Nigeria it was sooo much different... and it really boosted the economy. Now, back to email conversation with Nigerian prince that wants to share some inheritance with me...
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kelvin0over 9 years ago
That makes Ayn Rand and her followers sad. I for one think it&#x27;s great if all that is reported is true. Some places in the world need that extra nudge to help them on the right economic track.