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Paper is Dropbox's new vision for how teams can work together

179 pointsby slackpadover 9 years ago

20 comments

jamwtover 9 years ago
I&#x27;m pretty excited about this one. We&#x27;ve been using Paper internally at Dropbox (under a few different codenames) for more than a year, and we now run almost all our collaboration through it--design docs, specs, etc.<p>I&#x27;m on the infrastructure (storage) team, so I haven&#x27;t really had anything to do with its development. My team&#x27;s use started out as &quot;dog fooding&quot;, like most internal adoption, but now we&#x27;d all be pretty pissed if it disappeared because it&#x27;s simply way better than the array of tools we were using before. Great usability, speed, etc. Feels lightweight but powerful at the same time.<p>Anyway, hopefully you all like it too.
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new299over 9 years ago
My apologies for bring this up again, as I&#x27;m sure the developers worked hard on this feature, but since Rice joined Dropbox&#x27;s board (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.drop-dropbox.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.drop-dropbox.com&#x2F;</a>) I&#x27;d have severe concerns using anything released by Dropbox.<p>With a board member who advocates warrentless surveillance it seems unlikely that we share similar views on the security of my data, and I wont be using their service.<p>I think all users should carefully consider if they are happy with using Dropbox in light of the views of their board members.
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octrefover 9 years ago
This is something I&#x27;d personally use. A lot of alternatives exist on the market but none of them look as refined as Paper.<p>Paper looks really similar to <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;onword.co" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;onword.co</a> (by Daniel Eden at Dropbox) regarding the minimalism and limitation on formatting. I guess Hackpad team is working on the backend.<p>I just hope this project will not end up like Mailbox. I&#x27;ve been using Mailbox on OS X for half a year. Although once in a while I encounter some bugs, it&#x27;s still very usable. A few months ago, they released an upgrade from 0.4 to 0.7. The UI became uglier in orders of magnitude and many basic functionalities just broke. After experiencing it for 3 days I switched back to Mail.app. I have sent quite a few bug reports and suggestions, but got no response. I wonder if they still care about Mailbox at all.
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dijitover 9 years ago
Not to be confused with facebooks paper.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;itunes.apple.com&#x2F;app&#x2F;id794163692" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;itunes.apple.com&#x2F;app&#x2F;id794163692</a>
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krmmalikover 9 years ago
I&#x27;m really surprised that only one person has mentioned Quip this whole time. Quip is already solving this problem and -- i have to say -- is doing a stellar job at it. Simple and minimalist approach to collaborative content&#x2F;document writing. Ive been using Quip for over a year now across multiple organisations. Its probably <i>the</i> most important tool for my company in terms of knowledge sharing.
edanmover 9 years ago
Here&#x27;s a thought:<p>Dropbox should buy Evernote, especially since they&#x27;re in trouble, and fix one of the biggest problems with that service by making it sync using Dropbox (and making its data easily accessible).
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6stringmercover 9 years ago
A neat development, and I am consistently intrigued and impressed by collaboration tools for teams. As an internal tool, I could see it being constructive in some limited scenarios. If anybody can mention instances where using something like this or Google Docs with multiple people at the same time, I&#x27;d love to hear your stories to level-up my understanding of use-case scenarios.<p>But...in my business experience with teams across a few different industries, however, I&#x27;d say &quot;No&quot; so fast you&#x27;d think I had some kind of inherent bias.<p>Well, I think I do. The modern conference call, speed of data transfer, and online presentation tools that exist should - and do - work just fine when there is one expert at the controls. Usually that expert was me. Taking disparate pieces from different people and getting them in right, often in real-time, was part of my job. Another part of my job was helping people &quot;talk through&quot; what they intended to communicate, and help phrasing and spelling along the way.<p>Examples include responses to RFPs in a Word template, or any one of the development phases in a PowerPoint 11x17 or slide deck. These would eventually be client-facing, and could be done on the fly if so desired (rather than input&#x2F;output versioning, often hosted on SharePoint). Then, when finished, it was suitable for production.<p>I don&#x27;t see how Paper is an improvement on this process, but rather, a situation of allowing too many cooks in the kitchen. Again, I&#x27;m only speaking from my realm, and take pride in learning about new things (like JamKazam) that are still developing or even ahead of their time. YMMV.
mathgeekover 9 years ago
Wood tabletop? check<p>Moleskine notebook? check<p>iPhone? check<p>This passes the generic tech news site photograph test.
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abtinfover 9 years ago
After the disaster that is Carousel (particularly on iOS), I am extremely reluctant to use any other dropbox apps.<p>Carousel has had major bugs in their iOS client that have not been fixed in nearly a year. I&#x27;m talking core features, like background upload of photos not working, which could have led to the loss of priceless photos of my kids, had I not been more vigilant before taking my phone in for service.<p>Its a fair bet that a goodly number of dropbox customers have lost photos due to this bug. No fix in sight.
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Grue3over 9 years ago
I think Dropbox would really benefit from integrating something like Pushbullet. Both apps are concerned with syncing. If I need to send a file to one of my devices, I use Dropbox. If I need to send a link, I use Pushbullet. There&#x27;s no reason why it couldn&#x27;t be a single app.
stateover 9 years ago
Somehow simple note taking is something that really hasn&#x27;t been done right by anyone. This seems like it could be nice, but I&#x27;d like it a lot more if I could host it myself.
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huacover 9 years ago
Looks exactly like Quip.com
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daniel_iversenover 9 years ago
Another Dropbox employee here (but not part of the Paper product team or engineering). We&#x27;re all super excited about this beta launch because it totally has changed how we work internally and liberates you to be creative I feel (and we&#x27;ve had and still do have access to a lot of different tools). Happy to answer any questions around the productivity aspect of questions curious people may have about the product who don&#x27;t have access to the beta yet!
chishakuover 9 years ago
Is Paper significantly different to Hackpad or simply a rebranding?
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teaneedzover 9 years ago
Does it support Markdown?
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the_watcherover 9 years ago
If they&#x27;ve simply made a better collaborative word processor than a Google Doc, that alone would be a pretty huge upgrade. Nice job
CephalopodMDover 9 years ago
Can you do collaborative code on this? That&#x27;s a game changer.
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mtgxover 9 years ago
Why can&#x27;t Dropbox build something like this in their app?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cryptomator.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cryptomator.org&#x2F;</a>
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snorrahover 9 years ago
Good to see the legacy of Google Wave lives on
smt88over 9 years ago
Wow, thanks so much for the reply!<p>Your answer to my second question is interesting because I kind of understand the tin-foil-hat argument, but I don&#x27;t totally see how Rice would create additional pressure to violate privacy. She&#x27;s a civilian now and, presumably, completely locked out of the current administration.<p>To me (someone without a tin-foil hat), I think the issue is more symbolic. Rice is a terrible human being and a seasoned deceiver of the public. It&#x27;s almost like we&#x27;re asking ourselves, &quot;If you&#x27;d allow <i>her</i> to be part of your leadership, what else would you do?&quot;<p>When I&#x27;ve thought about it, that wasn&#x27;t enough to counterbalance exactly what you mentioned -- the idea that a single privacy breach at Dropbox could mean the end of the company. She&#x27;s barely a part of the leadership and may have almost no say in what the company does. The ultimate decisions are probably still in the hands of the executive team. That&#x27;s why I was a customer until very recently.<p>All that said, I don&#x27;t understand how Rice is valuable enough to counterbalance the bad PR from the tech community. Tech-y people get small companies to adopt certain brands over others, and then those small companies grow into large companies. Maybe I&#x27;m naive, and Rice offers some amazing connections or something?<p>Either way, if much of the Dropbox team has your attitude and values, I can honestly say I hope the company has a prosperous, breach-free future ahead of it.
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