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The Trading Game

235 pointsby scottkduncanover 9 years ago

28 comments

area51over 9 years ago
The game definitely leaks information, I got better at every try -- this was the 4th attempt:<p>Your returns were 329.0%, against the stock’s 139.7% and the S&amp;P’s 14.7%. You outperformed 100.0% of players, ranking #1.
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byron_fastover 9 years ago
Wow. Imagine your livelihood depends on that game; your salary, your bonus, your standing. You can research the movements and HFT the micro-movements, but you&#x27;re still playing that game.
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cryoshonover 9 years ago
This game is really easy, so it can&#x27;t be realistic. I think that a lot of the challenge is removed by the fast speed that the game makes the years go by. It removes the challenge of waiting with what you have for a better opportunity; I&#x27;m not sure if institutional investors would ever hold positions for years on end.
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djhnover 9 years ago
It&#x27;s a shame I don&#x27;t get 2000% returns in the real market. But I also don&#x27;t invest 100% of my portfolio on every trade. I guess that&#x27;s where I&#x27;ve been going wrong?..
ISLover 9 years ago
The game should really be named &#x27;The Momentum Trading Game&#x27;.<p>Without even knowing the company&#x27;s price-to-book and p&#x2F;e ratios, let alone what the company is, its past history, the market it&#x27;s in, and who runs it, it&#x27;s just chasing the dance of a number.<p>Doing nothing, I tend to beat about 20% of the traders. Without the future leak, it&#x27;d surely be better than that.<p>Edit: Just got Enron. Did nothing. Beat half the players.
bluxover 9 years ago
The shifting of the scale on the axes gives you insider information...got to $1B after a few tries :)
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oustaover 9 years ago
I struggle to see if the game includes all the taxes and the cost of transactions? this is somewhat important on small gains
tristanjover 9 years ago
I prefer this version of the game. It&#x27;s set to historical stocks from the early 1990s to today.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;chartgame.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;chartgame.com&#x2F;</a>
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tux3over 9 years ago
Fun game, but real life trading is probably not that easy!<p>&quot;Your returns were 2950.1%, against the stock’s -75.3% and the S&amp;P’s 57.1%. You outperformed 97.1% of players, ranking #48.&quot;
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Smushmanover 9 years ago
Information leak #1: Scale Changes - noticed this but could not put my finger on defining it clearly.<p>#2: Date - along the bottom edge the date progresses. Knowing generally that the market did well during certain multi-year ranges was an absolute edge. Too bad the real world doesn&#x27;t come with this kind of information.
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increment_iover 9 years ago
Pretty cool! Not something I thought would work so snappy on a mobile browser. I made a killing on Enron!
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rgawdzikover 9 years ago
Where&#x27;s the short option?
edddover 9 years ago
In short term trading your profit&#x2F;loss will be probably random. Saying that some day trades make money is like saying that some people might flip a coin and hit heads 20 times in a row. For a big enough group of people it will happen. Unless you are high frequency trader - then you make money every single day.
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qrybamover 9 years ago
That was fun - almost $32,000,000 from the first run. Made a killing on DELL (260.9% vs -61.1%).<p>If you keep playing, it&#x27;s the same stocks again and again - would be even more fun if there was some pseudo real time&#x2F;more recent charts too.
arca_voragoover 9 years ago
Along these lines, can anyone recommend a good tool to test real strategies against the real stock market, taxes, fees, etc included? Not looking for free necessarily, just something that I could actually learn and test against real world data with the same variety of options, futures, paper, forex, etc.<p>Also, I remember working on a Bloomberg machine at one point, and the license was something like 200k a year, and I was told most of that wasn&#x27;t for the machine but for the level of data access. At what point does the data become free?
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washedupover 9 years ago
this is fun, but it gives you clues on where it will go next as the frame shifts before big movements.
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Mikeb85over 9 years ago
Played through all the stocks, got up to 96,000.00$. Pretty fun, especially some of the stocks which tank (too bad there&#x27;s no short option).<p>Works surprisingly well on mobile too.
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z3t4over 9 years ago
This is a cool game! But does it represent the real world? It seems to be a game of reflexes. Or does ranking in the top 100 means I actually can predict the future?
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dennisgorelikover 9 years ago
Is this game designed by Bloomberg to lure amateur day traders into their system?<p>The games is designed in such a way that it is so easy to make big virtual $$$$$$$.<p>Next step - actual trading account and $$$$$ losses (while Bloomberg collects commission fees).
collinmandersonover 9 years ago
I got #2 on AAPL on the first try. I ignored the scale and just bought based on dates: Bought asap, sold in late 1999, bought in late 2001, sold mid 2007, bought early 2009, sold May 2015, bought mid-August 2015.
blazespinover 9 years ago
Stopped playing after 170B. Too bad they don&#x27;t mix up the charts, kinda fun. I couldn&#x27;t quite figure out the scale shifting helping, seem more like a momentum thing.
vvoyerover 9 years ago
So nicely done, would love to see the code on github thought
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doc_hollidayover 9 years ago
In the real world you wouldn&#x27;t always buy &#x2F; sell at the price you hit, someone could front run or by the time your sell hits the market there could be lack of buyers and the price will have tanked.<p>So this makes it seem easy, when the trade differ in real life from what might look available one minute.
joeyspnover 9 years ago
1. Click at the start<p>2. HODL til&#x27; the end of time<p>3. Profit
yitchelleover 9 years ago
This goes the show how much of a gamble it is when investing by charts.
stupandausover 9 years ago
I made $1.6148008835081285e+21 LOL<p>The right axis scaling leaks a lot of future info...
lgomezmaover 9 years ago
Just buy at the start and hold until the end, you will outperform the market and most of the people.
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jj89over 9 years ago
I got lucky - first try #9 on GOOGL, outperforming 99,4% of all players <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;yWohi4J" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;yWohi4J</a><p>and #8 outperforming 99.6% a few tries later <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;75raZvr" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;75raZvr</a> - returns 6462% on a stock that lost 75.3% over that period
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