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Facebook secretly lobbying for CISA?

258 pointsby devhxincover 9 years ago

10 comments

cryoshonover 9 years ago
&quot;CISA would give companies like Facebook legal immunity for violating privacy laws as long as they share information with the government.&quot;<p>Whether or not Facebook is secretly lobbying for CISA, the article describes the way the incentives look.
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onewaystreetover 9 years ago
Neither Fight for the Future nor Boing Boing provide any evidence for this allegation, so I guess the answer is no.
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dogma1138over 9 years ago
Is there any actual proof of this other than her getting a job?<p>Myriah seems to be quite connected and has worked for various departments including for Obama which makes her a good lobbyists. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.opensecrets.org&#x2F;revolving&#x2F;rev_summary.php?id=77334" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.opensecrets.org&#x2F;revolving&#x2F;rev_summary.php?id=773...</a>
declanover 9 years ago
It would not be a surprise if this is true and Facebook was lobbying for CISA. Facebook supported an earlier version of the bill called CISPA; here&#x27;s a letter on Facebook letterhead saying we &quot;commend you on your legislation&quot;: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;intelligence.house.gov&#x2F;sites&#x2F;intelligence.house.gov&#x2F;files&#x2F;documents&#x2F;FacebookHR3523.pdf" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;intelligence.house.gov&#x2F;sites&#x2F;intelligence.house.gov&#x2F;f...</a><p>And here&#x27;s an article I wrote for CNET in 2013 about Facebook&#x27;s earlier position(s): <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnet.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;facebook-unfriends-cispa-cybersecurity-bill-over-privacy&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnet.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;facebook-unfriends-cispa-cybersecur...</a><p>But before condemning Facebook, let&#x27;s at least confirm that the allegations are true. As evidence, BoingBoing gives us a Fight for the Future webpage, which says: &quot;We&#x27;ve gotten information that Facebook is secretly lobbying...&quot; (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youbetrayedus.org&#x2F;facebook&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youbetrayedus.org&#x2F;facebook&#x2F;</a>) There are no details in this Reddit thread: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;technology&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3q1kgl&#x2F;facebook_may_be_the_secret_force_behind&#x2F;cwbqyjy" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;technology&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3q1kgl&#x2F;facebook...</a><p>On one hand, Facebook is one of dozens of tech companies that are members of CCIA, which has criticized CISA in its current form. (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ccianet.org&#x2F;2015&#x2F;10&#x2F;ccia-urges-senate-to-improve-cybersecurity-information-sharing-act&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ccianet.org&#x2F;2015&#x2F;10&#x2F;ccia-urges-senate-to-improve...</a>) On the other hand, CCIA&#x27;s positions do not necessarily reflect the views of every member company on every issue, and Facebook <i>has</i> endorsed an earlier version.<p>Unless there&#x27;s more evidence than an advocacy group&#x27;s &quot;we&#x27;ve gotten information&quot; claim, let&#x27;s give Facebook a chance to reply before assuming the worst.
jayvanguardover 9 years ago
I was wondering about the private vs. public position of companies on this. Seeing Microsoft recently flip to the &quot;good list&quot; of companies made me very suspicious.
fharper1961over 9 years ago
Even if there isn&#x27;t any proof yet,it does seem like immunity from prosecution would be in FB&#x27;s short term interest.
shmerlover 9 years ago
Facebook thrives on the lack of privacy, so is this surprising?
tempodoxover 9 years ago
“<i>CISA would give companies like Facebook legal immunity for violating privacy laws as long as they share information with the government.</i>”<p>So the Government is using sock puppets to violate its own laws. Nice. Criminals of all continents, unite! The U.S. is your land of opportunity.<p>Really, why be a terrorist when you can fuck everyone over legally and even get rich and powerful with it. As an added bonus, you get to call yourself a patriot while you&#x27;re at it.
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andyleiover 9 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Betteridge%27s_law_of_headline...</a>
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swileyover 9 years ago
The good news is that FB has behaved so poorly that almost no one I know uses it or trusts it any more, so we know that in the long run at least this kind of behavior doesn&#x27;t work.
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