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More parents, students saying 'no' to homework

206 pointsby brianclementsover 9 years ago

46 comments

unquietcodeover 9 years ago
Let&#x27;s not forget that the inhabitants of this website are almost certainly the kind of people who saw through the noise and got their education on their own terms. As we raise our kids we help them tip-toe around all this garbage, but most parents have no tools at their disposal to review and revise and push back against bad practices in their child&#x27;s education. The issue of education in this country needs to be addressed, but the system has to serve all types, including children who&#x27;s parents are unable to provide alternative structures and insights and &#x27;hacks&#x27; to get by.<p>That didn&#x27;t add much (I wasn&#x27;t trying), but these threads always seem to turn into an echo chamber of &quot;I got by without doing any homework!&quot; because, let&#x27;s face it, here we are. What is the 98% solution, I wonder, versus the 2% version? Of all that I&#x27;ve seen, it starts with better, smarter, well-paid, un-stressed, empathetic teachers. Students too afraid to think? Too pinned down to discover how best to learn for themselves? I just want to give all these poor kids a hug and tell them how smart they really are--it makes me so sad.
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dgrantover 9 years ago
This is crazy, I don&#x27;t know where I would be today if I hadn&#x27;t done homework. Homework was where I really and truly learned. Independent work is so important, and it&#x27;s totally different than doing something with a bunch of students in a classroom setting. Sure, the education system probably could be improved a lot. But you can&#x27;t just remove homework from the current system and expect there will be no negative consequence to that.<p>My daughter is in Grade 1 French Immersion in Canada and she is assigned a few sight words every week in French to memorize in addition to some French sounds (2 letter sounds). On top of that we try to do a bit of math here and there and some English. The teacher tells us to make it as fun as possible, so we try, sometimes I turn her sight words in to a quick board game. For math, we try to use the Bedtime Math books or the app. For reading, we read princess readers which she loves. Sometimes we try other readers and we push it, only to find out she really hates them, and sometimes the French sounds memorization is tough and painful. Can&#x27;t imagine asking the teacher for less homework though, it seems like just the right amount.
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JamesBarneyover 9 years ago
I am in total agreement that children have better things to do than homework.<p>Such as learning how to play and interact with others. Learn how to deal with adversity. How to deal with the sadness of a break up or not being included. Learning how to lead a team via Counter Strike or WOW. Learning computers by writing a mod for a favorite computer game.<p>These things taught me far more than a worksheet on a very idealized version of the events that led to the American Revolution.<p>And on a different note the idea of a lecture in class followed by homework at home seems silly to me. Lectures are easy to scale so a child can learn from the best of the best in the world(With explanatory graphics). Tailored tutoring to the issues a child is having while trying to solve problems and understand a concept is very hard to scale. It seems to me it would make more sense to watch lectures outside of the classroom and do homework in the classroom.
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ahallockover 9 years ago
Homework is an abomination. It steals time a child could be spending with their parents, siblings, friends, etc. You spend all day in a classroom, sedentary, which isn&#x27;t healthy to begin with, and then when you go home, you&#x27;re expected to sit more. Children need to play and explore the world. Schools are failing if they have this overflow of work that must be sent home.
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mmcclellanover 9 years ago
One evening my wife, daughter and I were sitting in the living room. My wife and I were reading and my daughter was doing her Math homework, when all of sudden she asks &quot;Did Heath Ledger commit suicide?&quot;<p>I said &quot;that&#x27;s a weird question, what brought that up?&quot; and she said they were talking about it at school today with the Dare Police Officer. I said &quot;Oh you had a Police Officer in your class today?&quot; and she said &quot;Yeah, on Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays.&quot;<p>No one I&#x27;ve ever told that story to has ever commented on it.
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fiatmoneyover 9 years ago
&quot;the notion that America can close the learning gap with China or India...&quot;<p>Indian and Chinese students in America do as well or better than Indian and Chinese students in their home countries on any measure you&#x27;d like to name.<p>For that matter the same is true of Mexican students in the US vs. in Mexico, European students in the US vs. in Europe, etc.
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NDizzleover 9 years ago
I am not to the point of saying &#x27;no&#x27; to homework. But I am starting to question a few things.<p>First off, my situation is not the norm anymore. Not only am I the single earner in my 5 person household, but I work from home full time. I am extremely active in my kids lives.<p>My kids are very fortunate in that they always have one and often times both parents to help out with school work.<p>My oldest is 9 - 4th grade. I have a 5 year old in Junior-Kindergarten. Both have homework. (My 2 year old doesn&#x27;t count here, except when he&#x27;s literally eating their homework.)<p>I coach little league, and I talk to a lot of the parents. Some of the parents have kids in the same class as my 9 year old. These are households where both parents work and have more than one child in school.<p>There is a drastic difference in support that the children receive. Now, I&#x27;m not smart. I have a high school education from Arkansas, which is always fighting with Mississippi for the worst rank in education standards. However, I consider my problem solving skills outstanding. I am not doing my kids homework, but I do look at my kids homework. Every night. I help them sometimes. I get on the white board and we go over things. I have them teach the methods back to me.<p>It&#x27;s a difference that just last night, a mother of one of the kids came up to me and was talking about the math homework they had today. Her daughter had spent an hour on it before the game and still doesn&#x27;t get it. I hadn&#x27;t even looked at the homework yet, so I asked my daughter what was going on with the math homework tonight. Her response? Oh yeah, that&#x27;s super easy. You can look at it when we get home.<p>So you have something that takes at least 1 hour (I&#x27;ll find out more about it later if anyone cares!) for one student compared to something that is a nonissue for another student. In 4th grade. That isn&#x27;t really sustainable. And I&#x27;ll go out on a limb here and say that her friend who is having a bit more trouble isn&#x27;t dumb by any means. I&#x27;ve coached her for two years in softball. And we&#x27;re not special in the other direction, either.<p>Oh yeah - my 5 year old in Jr K - she has monthly homework assignments. Things like gather fall leaves and glue them to a piece of paper. Trace your hand and stick leaves on it to make a bird. Fun things like that. Not real homework. But she does have things to do at home to gear her up for the future.<p>Anyways. There are my personal experiences with this stuff in California&#x27;s central valley.
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lordCarbonFiberover 9 years ago
I see several issues with the ideas presented here. Firstly, the idea that a parent should have control over homework in any capacity seems like a misguided idea. Secondly, the article dances around ideas but never touches on the importance of the content of the homework. Not all worksheets are created equal and it follows that neither are all hours spent at home working. There are big differences from a pedagogical standpoint between homework designed to expand knowledge, evaluate proficiency, and provide mechanical practice (just to name a few).<p>In my opinion the whole issue stems from lack of standardization in education in this country. The huge variance, even at a regional scale, in the tools available to teach coupled with the lack of standardized methods for addressing the needs of a wide variety of students presents a system that is often going to regress to the lowest common denominator (often mechanical drudgery given the ease in creation and evaluation) .
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lordnachoover 9 years ago
The problem with homework is it&#x27;s used as a form of accountability. My French teacher used to joke when collecting papers : &quot;Ou est votre dette a la societe?&quot; (Apologies for missing accents.)<p>Of course what it should be is like at university. The professor can&#x27;t spend all his time with you, so you get a rough list of what you should know about. It&#x27;s then up to you to judge whether you need to read a bit more or a bit less.<p>The point is judgement. You can figure out when you understand something. You don&#x27;t need a whole page of quadratic equations, in fact you don&#x27;t understand it if you get to the end and think you need more. OTOH, if you only do the first two and you think you get it, you might be enlightened when you look at some further questions.<p>As a parent, it means instead of asking the teacher for more homework, which will annoy them, you can simply ask your kid some enlightening questions. It&#x27;s probably a lot more interesting for them that way.
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isolatedover 9 years ago
I graduated from high school recently. Homework was the true bane of my existence. It gnawed at my every waking thought and put a tinge of anxiety to my every moment. Am I doing it? Did I forget some? What do I need to be doing that Im not? The entire school experience is a depressing prison of course but homework is how it goes from an seven hour affair to a twenty four hour project. More than anything else it makes sure youre always at school, always worried about the evaluation of unrespectable teachers and disgusting sadists.<p>You start to wonder if theres a way out, like any prisoner examining the prison with obsessive dedication. You follow the vine to its end and back pacing your room going through the mental anguish of knowing youre trapped and theres nothing you can do about it. (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;steve-yegge.blogspot.fr&#x2F;2008&#x2F;10&#x2F;programmers-view-of-universe-part-1.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;steve-yegge.blogspot.fr&#x2F;2008&#x2F;10&#x2F;programmers-view-of-u...</a>) I used to have this fantasy where Id go down to the school building in the middle of the night when nobody is there with a barrel of kerosene. Id douse the schoolhouse walls with the fetid substance and light it ablaze, laughing as the walls go up in smoke before throwing myself on the tickling flames crying and screaming and laughing in agony as I burn.<p>Im so glad to be free.
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a2techover 9 years ago
The best thing my school did was moving to the &#x27;block&#x27; system. Instead of having 6 or 8 classes to go to every day, I had 4 classes a semester. It also meant that my algebra class, or biology, was twice as long as your &#x27;standard&#x27; class at another school.<p>The block system meant that the instructor had twice as long with the students and could really dig into a subject. It also meant we didn&#x27;t usually have homework because it wasn&#x27;t necessary-the instructor taught, we learned, we drilled on it in class.
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neap24over 9 years ago
Why the all or nothing approach? At my high school, I think we have a great policy for math homework (I am the teacher). It is assigned every day but never checked or graded. At the beginning of each class we go over any problems the students had trouble with, then move on. Students eventually reach an equilibrium where they figure out how much time they personally need to spend each night on math homework. For students who are failing tests and doing no homework, we generally suggest they do a little more.
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ThrustVectoringover 9 years ago
Saying &#x27;no&#x27; to homework doesn&#x27;t go far enough, IMHO. They should be saying &#x27;no&#x27; to the entire abominable structure of schooling.
tjrover 9 years ago
Hmm. The article alludes to some studies that back up their point, but, anecdotally, I think I got more out of doing homework than I did out of sitting in class...
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FussyZeusover 9 years ago
This sounds again like a problem of a system that is trying to educate a thousand different kids with a thousand different lifestyles and a thousand different home lives and a thousand different living situations all the same way, because it still operates on the basis of the organization system of the industrial revolution. Hell, we still organize our kids by their date of manufacture.<p>Every time I read one of these it reads like &quot;We&#x27;re trying to make this 1940&#x27;s era system work but it just keeps sucking more and more&quot; and yet every time someone says we should just obliterate this thing and come up with something better, they always get shouted down by the educational establishment.<p>unquietcode up there has a great thought, and I know I&#x27;m deep in it, but yes, I got successful in howling opposition to, not because of the education system. We sit our kids in tiny desks and have them do clerical work for 9 hours a day while high school dropouts drive Bugatti&#x27;s and we wonder how our kids intrinsically know that school is worthless.
Dowwieover 9 years ago
&quot;Let kids be kids&quot; means something different for each household. In mine, that meant video games and sports, but mostly the former.<p>Not sure what&#x27;s going to come of any no-homework generation while this happens elsewhere:<p>&quot;Teens in Shanghai spend 14 hours a week on homework&quot; <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;qz.com&#x2F;311360&#x2F;students-in-these-countries-spend-the-most-time-doing-homework&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;qz.com&#x2F;311360&#x2F;students-in-these-countries-spend-the-m...</a>
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adrusiover 9 years ago
I figured I&#x27;d share a relevant anecdote: throughout most of my school (at least by seventh grade) I did virtually no homework. Not with the blessing of my teacher, nor of my parents. But I knew that my parents wanted to shut their eyes and pretend that my grades were improving for as long as they could until the report card came home. I knew that most teachers could be convinced into letting me make up some work at the end of the quarter to turn my Ds into Cs if need be. And I knew that without doing the homework, I could still swing a 90% or greater in the remaining assignments.<p>I could sit down in class and be fully engaged an learn everything I need to and more. While I avoided some higher-level classes because often they were just the same as the regular classes with more homework, most of the classes I took were of the advanced level. I wasn&#x27;t just coasting.<p>I repeatedly tried throughout high school to change my habits, but for various reasons, many personal, these attempts were doomed to fail.<p>I know I&#x27;m not the average case, but clearly homework is not at all necessary for every kid to do well in school. Other commentors have given the opposite anecdote, saying they did only homework and did well. I think maybe we should accept that these grading policies should be tailored to the student. At the risk of just rambling off my life story, I&#x27;m going to continue to show how these homework problems affected me beyond high school.<p>Despite these problems, I was admitted to a good state university. I had a 3.0ish GPA because I brought it up with easy A classes like band, and because I had several classes that where homework comprised only 5-10% of the grade. I guess that. combined with my above-average extracurriculars got me in. I then essentially flunked out after two semesters.<p>It&#x27;s not that I didn&#x27;t have the study habits. They were probably lacking a little for the academic environment, but I definitely knew how learn independently. I was just so completely used to ignoring my academic responsibilities that I couldn&#x27;t stop. When you&#x27;ve been saying &quot;I don&#x27;t need to do this homework&quot; for years, it&#x27;s very easy to say &quot;I don&#x27;t need to study this thing&quot; even though you know very well that you have a lapse in understanding.<p>I&#x27;m convinced that I would have done at least somewhat better in college if only not doing homework in high school didn&#x27;t feel like not doing something that I had to do; if my parents and teachers hadn&#x27;t treated not doing homework as a bad thing. Obviously it <i>was</i> in fact a bad thing, but it didn&#x27;t have to be.
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Htsthbjigover 9 years ago
I was extremely lucky in my work life, I am successful as entrepreneur and I believe it is because of the way I was raised as a kid in Spain.<p>When I went out of the school I was free to do whatever I wanted to do. I never did homework but was good student, not brilliant, because I considered the extra effort was not worth it, as the extra effort for better grades was not linear but exponential.<p>I took school seriously when I was in the school but when I am out, I am out. I rode my bike, I played soccer with my friends, I did swim in lakes or pools, I climbed mountains, I camped in the forest.<p>All those experiences gave me probably as much as the school and trained me for free environments.<p>I see the world as an environment I can change and I do routinely. Most people can&#x27;t and I believe it is because they were trained to be good in controlled environments but just can&#x27;t &quot;think out of the box&quot; because of their education that was so controlled.<p>I have seen miserable kids with not a single moment of freedom in their day. A girl of my class graduated with honors in the University, got tenure and suicided. She was miserable if she did not made perfect exams, her parents were like crazy &quot;life is work and sacrifice&quot; nazis.<p>They were not expected to choose their own paths, to make decisions, but were expected to follow others to be good guys.<p>Most of the best entrepreneurs I know of had problems in the school. Most of them wanted to do things on their own early on and the adult response was repression.
orlessover 9 years ago
I&#x27;m really not sure if abandoning homework is a good idea. I went to school in the Soviet Union&#x2F;Russia, we had ca. 5 hours school a day and around 2-3 hours of homework, 6 days a week. I surely can&#x27;t provide solid scientific evidence linking homework to results in learning, but I don&#x27;t think it was unreasanable.<p>I have to admit, I mostly remember math homework, I loved math and loved math homework, it was always great fun to hack those problems and then problems with * and <i></i> and <i></i>* (stars for the higher difficulty). We learned concepts in the class, but we also needed to train mechanics with pure repetition. Some commenters wrote about scaling - I think repetition is exactly something which scales well in the homework, you don&#x27;t really need to do this in the class with a teacher.<p>The same for foreign language, for instance. You don&#x27;t really need a teacher a classroom to memorize new words, that&#x27;s perfect for the homework.<p>So I don&#x27;t think homework is unreasonable, I think it&#x27;s a valid approach to &quot;outsource&quot; mechanical&#x2F;repetitive tasks which don&#x27;t require classroom or supervision.<p>Having said that, 7 hours of school PLUS 2-3 hours of homework is definitely too much.
danansover 9 years ago
It seems like the only skill that homework really builds is tolerance for being micromanaged, which I&#x27;m not sure is a good skill anyways.<p>I recall (with angst) the ridiculous way that homework was graded in school (x% of credit taken away for every day the assignment was late). This sets people up for a terrible relationship with work by making them focus on short-term rewards&#x2F;penalties instead of longer term goals, while disadvantaging individuals who don&#x27;t respond well to such a micromanaged model.<p>If we really want kids to develop well-rounded skills, we should make work about longer term projects, whose goal is very well articulated and its purpose is clear to students.<p>At the least, we should provide multiple paths for students to make the grade, one based on homework for those who naturally do well with that environment, and another based on long term projects for those who are naturally more &quot;bursty&quot; in their learning process. You can still administer tests&#x2F;quizzes for both types of learners to gauge their progress.
drewg123over 9 years ago
We opted out of a 9&#x2F;10 greatschools.org public school by second grade due, in part, to excessive homework in early elementary school (and also because of an obsession with standardized tests).<p>My son had 15-20 minutes a night of homework in kindergarten and even more in first grade. He was a &quot;late&quot; (by US standards) reader, which meant that he could not be responsible for reading the instructions doing his homework himself. These nightly homework sessions were pure misery for our family. After 2 years, we felt that all they were achieving was to drum any love of learning out of our son.<p>After 2 years in a Montessori-like school, he&#x27;s reading well above grade level, doing well at math, loving science, and has transferred to a new school with a Spanish immersion program. I feel that if he&#x27;d stayed in public school, he&#x27;d be well on the way to having &quot;learning problems&quot;
dcgossover 9 years ago
I am a sophomore in high school. In fact, I attend the same school as Zach Masterman in the article (Harriton High School), and he is in one of my classes. My one refute to his complaints is that perhaps he would have less homework if he played less games in class. Quips aside, here are my two cents.<p>I certainly do not agree that all out of class work should be abolished. However, I do think there is a threshold at which it becomes too much. As I presume many of us on this website can relate to, there is lots to be gained through personal study and developing good individual working habits. Many students tend to complain about being forced to go to bed late, however I am willing to bet that many of these students (myself included) sometimes push their assignments back to later in the night and could go to bed earlier with more efficient scheduling. This certainly does not always hold true, sometimes there is just that much to do.<p>Being a three season athlete I have a little less time than others, however I have found academic success. In general an HN appropriate modification of the &quot;time triangle&quot; (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;cdn1.theodysseyonline.com&#x2F;files&#x2F;2015&#x2F;09&#x2F;02&#x2F;6357682979153755441561145936_tumblr_m071aegWRy1r5dp6f.png" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;cdn1.theodysseyonline.com&#x2F;files&#x2F;2015&#x2F;09&#x2F;02&#x2F;6357682979...</a>) has held mostly true:<p>Pick 3 for the day: Sleep, Academics, Sports, Programming OR Social Engagements<p>Also, a note about my school. It is in the notorious Lower Merion School District, which is known for collecting lots of money in property taxes from the local old money who send their kids to private school. Thus, they have lots to spend per student (every student is given a new Macbook Air at the beginning of freshman year to rent for 4 years. They receive the exact same laptop every year, to incentivize keeping it in good shape. Only cost to student is $80 insurance deposit per year. The program is extremely successful.), every teacher is paid very well, great facilities, and they perform very well as a school. There is also a competitive academic culture: you are expected to do well at Harriton, and many do. Where homework plays in that equation is unclear, but take it how you will.<p>My final point is that not everyone who isn&#x27;t doing homework is sitting around watching TV or playing on their phones. Some have found a passion in something like programming, and actively pursue those passions in their free time (working on side projects, or perhaps even trying to build a company). Our district even provides a mini incubator with small amounts of seed money, free mentorship, and summer office space.
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iron0012over 9 years ago
I am continually shocked by how willing people are to opine, completely sans any data except for their own (worthless) anecdotes, when it takes less than 5 seconds to google “homework meta-analysis”.<p>Believe it or not, scientists have studied whether homework is worth doing before. You know, using science. Here’s one example of such a meta-analysis: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;larrycuban.files.wordpress.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;06&#x2F;review-of-educational-research-2006-cooper-1-62.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;larrycuban.files.wordpress.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;06&#x2F;review-of-edu...</a><p>Unsurprisingly (to me at least), homework is positively associated with improved academic performance.<p>Was that really so hard? Was it really easier to bloviate, as nearly everyone seems wont to do, than to actually pursue the evidence?
robotresearcherover 9 years ago
The main benefit of homework is instilling the habit of working to a deadline without direct supervision, instead of giving in to distractions.
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compStudentover 9 years ago
As a current high school student (at a private high school that is consistently ranked as one of the top in the country, so AMA if you want), homework sucks. That is true.<p>But the benefit to homework is that it teaches time management skills. Thanks to having hours of homework every night, I have learned to manage my time very well. For example, I spent the summer working in a University Lab. While there I spent ~10 hours a day at work, yet this still felt like a vacation to me. So yes, being busy sucks--but it ensures that students will learn how to manage their time effectively.
protomythover 9 years ago
School starts at 8AM around here and ends at 3:30PM with a 30 minute lunch break. 4 classes in the morning and 3 in the afternoon of 55 minutes each with 5 minutes between classes to get to the locker and to a different classroom. Around 32 hours of instruction and work per week. That&#x27;s close to a full time job, and some people want the students to do 2-3 hours of homework a night?<p>If schools must, increase the school day by 30 minutes or an hour, but that&#x27;s enough. Other things are just as important as school.
betadreamerover 9 years ago
The real argument is not about whether we need homework or not. It&#x27;s more about can you learn more than 7 hours or so a day? Kids are at school from 8-3 being taught by the teachers and then they have to spend an another 30min to 1hour at home. This is just too much.<p>Homeworks are important. It&#x27;s the only time that they can think by themselves and put what they learn in practice. But after being taught so long at school, kids are tired to learn. They want to play!
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SCHiMover 9 years ago
I HATED homework. I can honestly say that it&#x27;s one of the main reasons I didn&#x27;t have a fun time at school, since these things tend to snowball out of control.<p>Don&#x27;t do your homework -&gt; get into trouble -&gt; teachers thing you&#x27;re * -&gt; etc.<p>When universities started to doing the same (in my country) I just quit. Now I work in tech, I love my job. And the best part is that I thought all the skills I needed to myself without the huge (wasteful) drains on free time.
k__over 9 years ago
I never did homework in school.<p>Got a lot of hate from the teachers, but it only lowered my grades one mark.<p>Finished school with C+ so with homework I&#x27;d probably got B+<p>When I got home I played video games and later surfed the Internet and chatted all day.<p>This changed massively when I started my undergrad studies. I didn&#x27;t have to come to university, like I had to go to school, so I stayed at home. After I failed all my Math classes in the first semester I started working at home really hard in the second semester to get all the Math done. After the first year I knew how to find out what was expected in the exams, something I was missing in school. I stopped showing up at classes and just created a list of stuff that was needed for the exams. I learned this at home a month or a week before the exam and kept working&#x2F;partying the rest of the semester.<p>For my post-grad studies I switched to a remote university entirely and saved a bunch of time and money with this.<p>Since I had to work with remote teams on group projects in the post-grad studies, I also decided that I wanted to work remote in my &#x27;regular&#x27; job also.<p>Long story short, I hated homework as a kid, now I only do &quot;homework&quot;.
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drumdanceover 9 years ago
This issue seems to go back and forth. Here&#x27;s an argument in the Atlantic a few years ago arguing for more homework (for kids who struggle in school).<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;education&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2013&#x2F;09&#x2F;poor-students-need-homework&#x2F;279566&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theatlantic.com&#x2F;education&#x2F;archive&#x2F;2013&#x2F;09&#x2F;poor-st...</a>
gayprogrammerover 9 years ago
I didn&#x27;t see anything from the side of parents who want more homework. Why are some parents asking for more? Are their children misbehaving? Are their children not learning the material? I am guessing that homework doesn&#x27;t automatically make up for a school&#x27;s or teachers&#x27; shortcomings.
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malcolmgreavesover 9 years ago
I learned the most from _good_ homework assignments. These assignments were always multi-week (1-2) affairs. They were big, complicated, and covered a lot of things. But, since they weren&#x27;t due within a day, they gave me the time to really work at them. To rack my brain against their problems and discover, on my own, how to solve them. Of course, I almost always needed to talk with my TAs, professor, and fellow students multiple times throughout the assignment. And this made me become pro-active about seeking help, which I use on a daily basis in the real world.<p>Worksheets? Yes, I never learned a damn thing from these time wasters. I feel that mini-projects are the way to go.
c3534lover 9 years ago
&gt; An elementary school in Gaithersburg, Md., has banned homework altogether in favor of 30 minutes of nightly reading.<p>Is this reading that&#x27;s supposed to go on at home? I&#x27;m now confused as to how the article is trying to define homework.<p>But yeah, when I was in school there&#x27;d be 8 hours at school, then 3 hours of homework. And the homework was all busy work and the time spent in school was mostly pointless as well. School probably killed my innate desire to learn more than anything else in my life. It took me a while after I graduated enjoy it again.
Ch_livecodingtvover 9 years ago
I know a family in South Korea with children, who wakes up at 7 am for Grade school until 1 PM. Go to English academy the next hour, then goes to several other academies of Math, Science, Music. Comes home exhausted at 7-8 pm but has to do online tutorials for English. Plus the homework after that. The parents pity their child. But they said they don&#x27;t have any choice. The classmates are too competitive. If they stop doing that their child may look stupid in school. This is pathetic. But how to stop?
Retricover 9 years ago
The vast majority of homework has little direct value.<p>The real problem is many classes are poorly structured and need to crutch of outside work to cover the material. Even in college I often found reading the textbook was more useful and faster than attending class.<p>PS: I still remember many math classes where attendance took 5 minutes, then 30 seconds of (new idea! yay), followed by 40 minutes of mind numbing boredom.
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samfisher83over 9 years ago
If you want to get good at something you have to put in the work. I wonder what would have happened if MJ didn&#x27;t put in time into practice.
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lazyantover 9 years ago
I&#x27;m good with a bit of homework when the kids are not too little; there&#x27;s something to say for sitting down by yourself and trying to focus and figure things out or memorize a little bit (it can be done at school too or instead of at home); if students don&#x27;t have a minimum of study habits, how are they going to go about hard STEM courses in universities?
Macsenourover 9 years ago
As a SCRUM teacher, I do 2 hours of talking, with Q&amp;A, and then 3 hours of practical where we put the LEGO version of the Daily Bugle together.<p>I learned LONG ago that my students learned so much more by DOING than by lecture. As children, why would it be reversed with homework? If anything, I should reduce the talking and add more Lego fun for kids.
Overtonwindowover 9 years ago
I think homework is necessary for some subjects, like math and physics, because practice is where the learning comes from IMHO. In other subjects, homework is anachronistic. I think we should extend the school day like Japan, and build homework and social networks into the school setting.
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learc83over 9 years ago
If we&#x27;re talking about high school, bring back study hall. Kids can&#x27;t absorb information from lectures 7 hours a day, so why try?<p>7 hours a day 5 days a week (most of the year) for 13 years is surely enough time to prepare for college&#x2F;trade school&#x2F;apprenticeship&#x2F;unskilled labor.
kzhahouover 9 years ago
For everyone here saying &quot;no homework&quot;: do you think that math homework is also a waste of time?
seansmcculloughover 9 years ago
I always just did my homework at school in middle and high school. I graduated high school in 2009, so I imagine kids get a lot more homework now?
csenseover 9 years ago
The problem with homework is the proportion of busywork assigned.<p>A typical math textbook consists of several columns of fifty nearly identical problems, of which the teacher typically assigns thirty.<p>I don&#x27;t need to solve thirty quadratic equations by factoring in order to demonstrate that I know how to solve quadratic equations by factoring. The first three or four will suffice.<p>And don&#x27;t get me started on the astonishing number of assignments consisting of crosswords, word searches, paint-by-numbers, and similar activities with zero academic value.
ilovefoodover 9 years ago
After refusing them to get proper vaccination, let&#x27;s prevent them from getting proper education. Evolution baby!
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a3voicesover 9 years ago
I learned the most from doing homework and studying for tests. In class I mostly daydreamed and didn&#x27;t pay attention to much.
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zaccusover 9 years ago
Seriously, parents are complaining about 10-20 min of homework a night? Kids should be spending 1-2 hrs on homework every night, and if they run out of homework they should be working on a personal project or reading. That doesn&#x27;t have to encroach on their fun time; I&#x27;m talking about 2 hrs max. Every night. That&#x27;s not asking a lot.<p>It&#x27;s about learning how to manage your time and developing a productive routine. Kids will be expected to do plenty of homework once they get to college, I don&#x27;t see the point in not assigning it before then.
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