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Google to Fold Chrome Operating System into Android

510 pointsby sanatgersappaover 9 years ago

51 comments

rdlover 9 years ago
This is the worst day in commercially available operating system security in my lifetime. There have been bad operating systems in the past (pre come-to-Jesus Microsoft, like 98 and XP...), but rarely has anyone taken a great security product (ChromeOS) and merged it with the worst currently-shipping security product (Android).<p>This is a horrible day for security.
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Periodicover 9 years ago
The biggest difference between Android and Chrome OS for me as a user is how it handles user multi-tasking.<p>I&#x27;ve tried using an Android tablet for work. It&#x27;s nigh impossible, even with a keyboard because it doesn&#x27;t support multi-tasking well. Sure, it supports OS multi-tasking, but it doesn&#x27;t support user multi-tasking.<p>Android is based around the single-task model. You have a foreground app that takes up the entire screen and other apps are backgrounded. You can switch between apps fairly quickly, but you can only have one open at a time. There are some attempts to fix this, such as Samsung&#x27;s split-screen, but none are officially supported. We&#x27;ve even moved to having Chrome tabs use this model.<p>I love my Chromebook for work though. It does everything I need to do, including having multiple document windows open for multi-tasking.<p>Chrome OS is built on a multi-task model. You can have many windows open at once and quickly switch between them without losing state or visibility.<p>Windows tried to merge the two with Windows 8 and it was a terrible user experience. The last thing I want for my dual 24&quot; monitors is to be able to only use one window at a time. Having a messaging app take up the entire monitor is ridiculous. Hopefully they&#x27;ll find a middle ground. Until user multi-tasking exists in Android I won&#x27;t be using it for anything but my phone.
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jordanthomsover 9 years ago
Seems everyone here is panicking because they think that this means Chrome OS will be killed and Android will be made to run on Chromebooks - but I actually think the signs point to the opposite - Chrome OS becoming the Phone&#x2F;Tablet OS under a new guise. I wouldn&#x27;t read too much into a leak filtered through journalists, and instead look at what Google&#x27;s actually working on:<p>- Google has Chromium developers working on a DART-based Mobile UI framework and execution engine, Flutter (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;flutter.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;flutter.io&#x2F;</a>). It&#x27;s looking to be far better than the existing Android UI system - built for touch and 120fps from the start. This uses the Dartium VM and a bridge to allow the DART apps to use all the native features of the platform, it&#x27;s much more than just another web framework. Development on this is very active right now, clearly a sizable team working fulltime - and they&#x27;re building new developer tools also. There was a talk on this a while ago: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=PnIWl33YMwA" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=PnIWl33YMwA</a> .<p>- Google has built a Runtime to allow existing Android Java-based apps to run on Chrome OS, and is currently testing this and working with developers to get their apps to run on it. It doesn&#x27;t make much sense to invest in building that out just for chromebooks, since the experience on a Chromebook with Android apps is pretty awful (can&#x27;t resize etc), but it makes total sense if it&#x27;s going to be how legacy Java&#x2F;Android apps run on the new Chrome based phone OS.<p>The sad truth is that Android simply isn&#x27;t a very well engineered system - it&#x27;s been improved over time, but problems persist - like the complex update process leading to unsatisfied users and security problems, poor UI performance (even now, Android can barely do simple animations at a steady 60fps on the latest Nexus devices, and has little hope of allowing for the beautiful animations the Material Design team has come up with), and poor battery life. Google&#x27;s also at a dead-end with Java given the ongoing legal battles, and with Apache Harmony dead they have to maintain the standard library implementation themselves.<p>On the other hand, Chrome OS performs great, has awesome battery life on Chromebooks, is quite possibly the most secure end-user OS ever, and Chromebooks get speedy updates for at least 5 years. I know which one I&#x27;d choose as the basis for a merged OS.
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patrickaljordover 9 years ago
Update 7:40PM: We&#x27;ve updated the article&#x27;s headline to be more accurate. A Google spokesperson has confirmed to The Verge that both Chrome OS and Android will continue to exist; Chrome OS is not being &quot;killed.&quot;<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;10&#x2F;29&#x2F;9639950&#x2F;google-combining-android-chromeos-report" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theverge.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;10&#x2F;29&#x2F;9639950&#x2F;google-combining-...</a>
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AdmiralAsshatover 9 years ago
Mixed feelings on this. As someone with two Chromebooks (one Pixel, one Samsung ARM Chromebook) , an Android phone, and two Android tablets, here&#x27;s what I see as the potential benefits and tradeoffs:<p><i>+</i> Being able to run Android apps on a Chromebook would be awesome. There&#x27;s already some limited support for this, but it would be nice for it to be official.<p><i>+</i> Taking over the Chromebook line would hopefully force Google to make document editing not suck on Android devices.<p><i>+</i> Android running on Chromebooks will hopefully make the display scale better on hi-DPI devices.<p><i>-</i> ChromeOS is fairly lightweight and actually runs surprisingly well on cheap devices. I have no doubt that my Chromebook Pixel would run Android just fine, but the Samsung ARM Chromebook would probably chug, even though it&#x27;s running ChromeOS well enough.<p><i>-</i> Making Android run on laptops will <i>hopefully</i> make Google step up their Android document editing game, but as of right now it still sucks. Even the cheap Samsung chromebook was leagues ahead of using my tablet and a bluetooth keyboard in terms of trying to compose documents.<p>- The ability to install crouton on Chromebooks and have another Linux chroot on the side is an awesome feature of the Chromebook. I imagine that might be more difficult under Android, even though it still uses the linux kernel.
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blinkingledover 9 years ago
Took&#x27;em a while but better late than never I suppose. I have long been saying (on various forums :)) that this is the right approach.<p>Flash is dying off and if Android gets better desktop window manager and shell (the bar is already set too low - ChromeOS sucked with its stupid everything including WiFi settings in Chrome, tiny fonts and web-only apps) people will finally have a credible alternative to Windows desktops&#x2F;laptops. Plus this gives Google a chance to do something like Continuum - without having to be beholden to x86 for apps like MS.
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msoadover 9 years ago
Interesting development! Apple is taking &quot;two separate platforms&quot; approach while Microsoft and Google want to blend desktop and mobile. If you think about it makes sense. Microsoft and Google are going after a world were you pay for a cheap ARM device and it does work as desktop and mobile for you but Apple is going after customers who can pay for multiple devices.<p>But one thing is for sure, ARM is coming to desktop computing!
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cwyersover 9 years ago
Google wants to be in the enterprise market. Microsoft dominates the enterprise market right now, and they&#x27;re doing a lot of things (Surface, Windows 10, Office 365, Azure) to extend their dominance. If you look at new versions of Office and don&#x27;t see anything new in there for you, it&#x27;s because you&#x27;re not looking at the collaborative space. Microsoft is pulling the rug out from under Google Docs (which for some reason Google rebranded as Google Drive because they&#x27;re so terrible at naming things) by adding anything Google&#x27;s services have over Office AND having backwards compatibility with current Office docs. Google can&#x27;t match that. Apple meanwhile has the MacBook line, which was and may still be the laptop to beat in the ultrabook space. They also have the iPhone, which is the top dog for people who can afford them, and the iPad, which has dominated the tablet space in terms of productivity. (Android is dominating the tablet space for consumption, but that doesn&#x27;t help nearly as much in terms of enterprise).<p>The move to convertible devices is being driven by and catering to enterprise users. Microsoft is in the lead here with the Surface, and they&#x27;re trying to extend this to their phones but they may not be able to overcome the handicap of nobody wants their phones. Apple is playing from behind here because there&#x27;s walls between iOS and OS X that they won&#x27;t cross, but they have inroads into the enterprise space, they have enough native iOS productivity apps that work well on tablets (Adobe and ironically Microsoft are both heavily into the iOS productivy app space, and that&#x27;s a huge part of the market) that the iPad Pro is... unappealing to me personally but quite possibly will be successful in the marketplace.<p>Google has... Chromebooks, which have no apps and no market penetration outside of the very, very captive education market (where IT administrators just want computers so locked down that teenagers can&#x27;t do too much damage). And they have Android, which (in tablets at least) has almost no enterprise penetration and very little in terms of productivity apps. And the merging of ChromeOS with Android in order to tackle the enterprise market and the Surface line and the iPad Pro makes a lot of sense. But I&#x27;m not sure either papers over the other&#x27;s flaws enough to make it viable, and I&#x27;m definitely not convinced that they&#x27;re going to be able to be combined in a way that incorporates what ChromeOS does well that Android doesn&#x27;t, like system software updates.
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pgroteover 9 years ago
I&#x27;ve used a Chromebook as my machine for the last 18 months. I love it.<p>Anything I need to do, I can do through web services, remote desktop or chrome remote desktop.<p>The one thing I have come to love about ChromeOS is the security. I don&#x27;t need to worry as much and I have confidence in using my Chromebook all the time.<p>My phone is android and maybe I am just suffering from Verizon abuse, but I&#x27;ve never had the same security confidence with my phone. And I think this will be the issue. Most people only know Android through a phone experience and it&#x27;s left a bad taste in their mouth.<p>Anyway, the Google folks are smart. My hope is the security and reliability of ChromeOS is what is taken and folded into Android.
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ChuckMcMover 9 years ago
Seems like the expected development, when I first saw Ubuntu&#x27;s presentation slides for Ubuntu in all things it really struck me that this was the way things would go. At the Microsoft Windows 10 event their ability to make it morph on multiple form factors seemed like they had done a lot of work to have the whole &quot;phone tablet desktp&quot; thing work everywhere. The challenges of maintaining multiple stacks has got to be huge.<p>So this is a good move for Google, ideally they cut down the infighting between the two groups, get rid of the lower 5% of both groups leaving them with a combined, more effective group with a well defined mission.<p>It will be interesting to see if they can make enough money at it though.
jallmannover 9 years ago
Will be interesting to see just what form the combined OS takes, particularly which elements from ChromeOS carry over.<p>It&#x27;s notable that iOS and Android still don&#x27;t have native support for composing declarative UIs, notwithstanding marvelous hacks like React Native. Web technologies aren&#x27;t perfect, but the use of markup for UI with well-integrated APIs is something that WebOS, FirefoxOS, etc got right a long time ago. It doesn&#x27;t even have to be HTML... look at QML.<p>I&#x27;m hoping that Android will take on some of those characteristics, and not subsume ChromeOS without a trace.
shmerlover 9 years ago
I&#x27;d prefer them to fold Android into glibc Linux instead. This libc division with bionic is very annoying, especially when it comes to closed drivers.<p>The last thing we need is Android expanding to desktop and causing even further rift.
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zmmmmmover 9 years ago
I really hope this actually means &quot;full&quot; Chrome (as in, plugins, chrome apps, all the rest) and &quot;full&quot; windowing capabilities are coming to Android and not just that Google is cancelling ChromeOS and using some renaming and tweaks to Chrome on Android as a fig leaf to pretend otherwise.
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skoocdaover 9 years ago
The rumours about Android app support for ChromeOS were more promising. I&#x27;m able to get a lot of functionality out of my chromebook, exclusively due to the crouton extension. I&#x27;ve gotten through most of an electrical engineering degree on ChomeOS including developing android apps, writing and deploying javascript apps, and using ROS and PCL. I&#x27;m afraid this change will nix all of these, and I&#x27;ll have to get a Mac to keep some UNIX functionality and maintain a rock-solid web-browsing experience. Not excited about that.
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EvanPlaiceover 9 years ago
ChromeOS is nothing but Linux with persistence sandboxed by default. All of its apps are nothing but webapps wrapped in a desktop app launcher ala Google Web Toolkit.<p>Merging with Android means nothing really, unless they plan to replace java-based Android apps with a runtime that natively supports webapps.<p>Lets call this what it really is. Alphabet&#x2F;Google is killing any project that doesn&#x27;t directly contribute revenue via advertising or Google Play sales.
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kozukumiover 9 years ago
I wonder how Microsoft will respond to this? Come July 2016 will Microsoft really stop the free upgrade from 7&#x2F;8 to 10 or will they just make Windows free to consumers? Obviously there will still be a (small) charge to OEMs and for business users they will still charge for the Pro and Enterprise versions but I think it is time for Windows Home to become free.
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spinchangeover 9 years ago
Lots of public schools are using Chromebooks. Aspects of the Chrome OS model are key features and justifications for it. As a taxpayer and parent in a school district that buys a lot of Chromebooks, this is an irritating pivot and feels like strategy tax because Chrome OS was the more visionary and future-forward model. I have a feeling that a not-insignificant portion of America&#x27;s pubic education system was betting on it.<p>(edit: I know Sundar and Google are extraordinarily brilliant and know what they&#x27;re doing...I am just envisioning Pixel C type devices, and this isn&#x27;t the direction I think anyone thought Chromebooks were headed. I&#x27;ll try to be more optimistic!)
billybilly1920over 9 years ago
I can only see 1 paragraph; why do people keep posting sites with broken content? Would be nice if people could link to actual content.
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hardwaresoftonover 9 years ago
As a FirefoxOS user, I&#x27;m excited to hear this news, in the hopes that eventually people will realize that HTML+CSS+JS is not a terrible stand-in for a full-fledged OS (iOS&#x2F;Android), depending on the task.
comexover 9 years ago
So what does this mean for security?<p>Since its inception, Chrome OS has made security a focus and put a large amount of work into it, everything from bootloaders to Linux kernel features such as seccomp-BPF and KASLR, to complement the existing high security of Chrome itself. It also borrows Chrome&#x27;s silent and fast update mechanism, allowing for frequent security updates. Its sandbox may feel somewhat limiting, but for those who do manage to stay within it, Chrome OS is probably the most secure desktop platform in common use.<p>Meanwhile, even if Android&#x27;s update issues were somehow solved, it has a pretty bad security reputation even apart from that, with a long list of historical vulnerabilities which could be basically said to stem from a lack of priority given to it (e.g. from designs which, while not <i>inherently</i> insecure, unnecessarily open up attack surface that could be eliminated with a better design, such as in the case of the &quot;master key&quot; vulnerabilities; or just from crappy code, such as binder - whether caused by lack of auditing or just lack of security awareness among its authors I don&#x27;t know, but both can be considered part of making security a priority). Maybe things have gotten better, and I don&#x27;t have that much experience with Android, but there is simply no comparison between the general Android app sandbox (which allows native code) and what you get under Chrome with NaCl and such. The latter isn&#x27;t perfect (as I know, because I&#x27;ve exploited it repeatedly), but the attack surface to examine for bugs is just much smaller than on other systems. I&#x27;m not really giving it any justice with this brief description.<p>I guess that if you&#x27;re especially worried about security you could just only use Chrome on Android, and not install or use any other apps, and that would get you most of the way there. Indeed, if you do so, you can still have access to the Chrome Web Store&#x27;s paltry selection of apps - it&#x27;s cross-platform, you don&#x27;t <i>have</i> to go for the OS designed around it...<p>But essentially nobody will do that. And even if they did, the recent Stagefright vulnerabilities demonstrate the difficulty of accounting for every potential attack surface on an OS, and thus the benefit of having the OS engineers design the lockdown rather than the user coming up with something ad-hoc. (Plus, today at least, even under Chrome&#x27;s sandbox, Android&#x27;s version of the Linux kernel is not as secure as Chrome OS&#x27;s. And again, this is all assuming Android slow update problem is solved, which is a pretty big assumption considering how long it&#x27;s been around; if it isn&#x27;t, that&#x27;s already enough to basically doom platform security.)<p>So if Chrome OS is really folded into Android, the end result, I think, will be the destruction in practice of something that was really quite unique in the security world. Maybe I shouldn&#x27;t be so pessimistic - after all, those same security engineers could now work on Android. But I am, because even if work is done on it, the platform just comes from such a different place that it would be hard to make the same.
ausjkeover 9 years ago
Android is really getting bloated these days, my nexus7 becomes nearly unusable these days(the launcher is not responding, etc), haven&#x27;t used chromeOS.<p>I recently bought a netbook(ACER) for $190 that I loaded with Linux and does everything I need, really why do I need ChromeOS?<p>Both ChromeOS and Android are OSes, it&#x27;s like two Linux distributions, I don&#x27;t know why they should &quot;merge&quot;, what&#x27;s the benefit for doing that? is it merge-able considering Android is such a JVM-hack?
realrockerover 9 years ago
Merging Chrome OS with Android means that now it will have access to the humongous ecosystem of App Developers, Platform Engineers, OEM&#x27;s, ODM&#x27;s, cheap ARM chipsets, a gazillion of tiny hack shops across China, Taiwan and India and test labs. And more in the form of an established brand name.<p>Android is bent and tested in unthinkable ways due to its reach. Let&#x27;s see if Chrome OS is up to it.
dsmithatxover 9 years ago
Only one question hearing this news. Will my Chromebook run Android or am I stuck with ChromeOS with no new updates?
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hendryover 9 years ago
The operating system I work on <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webconverger.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webconverger.com&#x2F;</a> I feel is just as secure as Chrome OS.<p>It self updates once installed (you can also downgrade if needed!) and we also have the entire rootfs in <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;webconverger&#x2F;webc" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;webconverger&#x2F;webc</a> for easy review. We <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webconverger.org&#x2F;wireshark&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webconverger.org&#x2F;wireshark&#x2F;</a> official Firefox releases to ensure it doesn&#x27;t chat to third parties.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webconverger.org&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2015&#x2F;ChromeOS_versus_Webconverger&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;webconverger.org&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2015&#x2F;ChromeOS_versus_Webconver...</a>
amyjessover 9 years ago
Finally.<p>For years, Google insisted that there was an important difference because Android was for touchscreens and ChromeOS was for keyboards and pointing devices. But that went out the window when they released the Pixel. Suddenly, both Android and ChromeOS had to support touch, and there was no contest between them.<p>You see, ChromeOS is just a web browser running as the graphical shell. Android has a web browser, and it also has its own application platform. We end up with a comparison between &quot;web browser + touch&quot; and &quot;web browser + touch + non-web applications&quot;, making Android objectively superior (when, before ChromeOS supported touch, you could argue that ChromeOS could have a better UI because it didn&#x27;t need to support the peculiarities of a touch interface).<p>It makes no sense for Google to sell both a full-featured OS and a crippled OS.
johanschover 9 years ago
Ah, so Android won the fight.
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arihantover 9 years ago
Google hit the sweet spot between Android and Chrome when they announced the continuity like features which they actually never released. Still, without being able to beam Android apps to Chromebook, I love the integrations my Android Wear, phone and Chromebook have.<p>They should just integrate it closer, which can be done without running the same OS. Heck, even Microsoft could do it. Just how do companies justify screwing over customers to simplify board meetings. About the last thing I want my trusty Chromebook to do is for it to be become Galaxy Booktab Duos III. Which, given that I have Samsung version, it will become.
JoshuaJBover 9 years ago
This makes me sad. I used ChromeOS as my daily driver for over a year, and it worked beautifully. Always secure, always up to date. The available fast and elegant SSH and IRC clients combined with Google Drive alone covered most of my daily necessity.<p>I only stopped using ChromeOS because Microsoft hired me and gave me a computer that cost 5x as much. Google did an admirable job in optimizing for low-end hardware, but there is a point where you can only eek so much out of a dual-core ARM with 2Gb of RAM.<p>On the other hand, my android phone (which cost the same as the chromebook) regularly struggles to load the homescreen.
mcintyre1994over 9 years ago
It&#x27;s going to be really interesting where they end up with tablets because right now Android on tablets is pretty rubbish. And that&#x27;s not just an apps thing - it&#x27;s the only one without split screen apps for example. There used to be a tablet UI with ICS, there&#x27;s very little to distinguish them from a blown up phone at this point.<p>It seems Apple have been very successful with iOS, but making smart enhancements like gestures and split screen that Google just never did. And of course Microsoft are doing very interesting things with Windows on tablets.
adrianbgover 9 years ago
Android and ChromeOS embody pragmatism and idealism. Android does everything everyone needs it to do but it&#x27;s rotten on the inside because the focus is always on shipping. ChromeOS is a great vision for the future of detached computing but no one uses it because the vision hasn&#x27;t been fully realized. I&#x27;ve been wondering whether this was going to happen ever since Chrome tabs on Android became equal citizens with the other apps. Seems like another good move from Google.
fiatjafover 9 years ago
If this happens then the web as a platform will lose. No more Javascript everywhere, forget about all the browser improvements of the last years: we&#x27;re going Java!
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BinaryIdiotover 9 years ago
People are really up in arms about this but keep in mind this is something that won&#x27;t ship until 2017; the Android you know today won&#x27;t simply have ChromeOS running as an &quot;app&quot;; it&#x27;ll be deeply integrated and they&#x27;ll likely address the multitasking issues they have today (2 years is a long time in technology terms).<p>I&#x27;ll save any criticisms I have for when I actually know what the ultimate combination looks like.
arthurfmover 9 years ago
Since Chrome OS currently includes Flash Player but Android doesn&#x27;t, could this mean that Flash Player will be removed from Chrome on all platforms in 2017?
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sandGorgonover 9 years ago
finally. This is something which is obvious and had to happen someday. The challenge is to take core components in Android and Linux (systemd vs android init or kdbus vs binder) and merge them together. Interestingly, this summer there was a student project layering binder API on kdbus [1]<p>I personally believe that SteamOS jumped the gun by not taking a bold step in this direction. It would have tapped into a even bigger developer community, accelerated the adoption of Vulkan and would have moved towards a larger Linux mindshare. It would have been an awesome world where most android apps could run on my desktop and my desktop has drivers that works with all graphics cards.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;linuxplumbersconf.org&#x2F;2015&#x2F;ocw&#x2F;proposals&#x2F;3417" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;linuxplumbersconf.org&#x2F;2015&#x2F;ocw&#x2F;proposals&#x2F;3417</a>
javadi82over 9 years ago
Paul Buchheit predicted this in 2010 to happen in 2011.<p>Reference: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2010&#x2F;12&#x2F;14&#x2F;gmail-creator-paul-buchheit-chrome-os-will-perish-or-merge-with-android&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2010&#x2F;12&#x2F;14&#x2F;gmail-creator-paul-buchheit...</a>
fiatjafover 9 years ago
<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ubuntu.com&#x2F;phone" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ubuntu.com&#x2F;phone</a>
ionisedover 9 years ago
What is Chrome OS like in terms of phoning home to Google? Is it Windows 10 bad?<p>Diagnostics, usage telemetry, advertising, tracking etc.?<p>I&#x27;ve never used ChromeOS and I&#x27;m more concerned about these things potentially making into stock Android (more than is already there now anyway).
mtwover 9 years ago
Chrome OS would have had more chances if they gave it more capabilities. Being limited to essentially chrome extensions as apps suck! Users want to install easily Atom, postgres or redis or even simple tools like GIMP without fighting against the machine
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PaulHouleover 9 years ago
Looks like what Win 8 would have been if Microsoft had already had a tablet operating system.
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thebouvover 9 years ago
Mostly concerned about schools who use them for students. A full blown Windows machine is going to be so much more of a maintenance nightmare for the school. Feature-light is a good thing, especially for elementary and middle school age students.
meeritaover 9 years ago
I would love to fully switch from Mac to Android if Google releases a solid, fast, secure and full of software OS. Sketch, Adobe, Sublime for Android along with Material Design UI looks promising.
iMarkover 9 years ago
Oh, thank goodness.<p>Both operating systems have their merits, but require Google to split their focus. And yes, this is in contrast to iOS&#x2F;Mac Os&#x2F;watchOS&#x2F;tvOS, which is a common OS divided by UI
eliover 9 years ago
I really hope a robust community steps up to continue it as an open source project.
blazespinover 9 years ago
This is a backup plan in case Google loses the fair use case against oracle &#x2F; java.
fiatjafover 9 years ago
Android has so many problems it is even difficult to start talking.
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alexkavonover 9 years ago
Fucking finally.
serge2kover 9 years ago
Really don&#x27;t want Android on a PC.
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onedevover 9 years ago
Really, we&#x27;re doing &quot;Alphabet’s Google&quot; now?
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pjmlpover 9 years ago
Finally! I never saw the purpose of a browser pretending to be an OS.<p>Had they tried something like a Smalltalk image like OS, using for example Dart instead of Smalltalk, that would be quite interesting.<p>Now a browser?!? All OSes already have a browser and are much more feature rich.
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toptalentscoutover 9 years ago
Seeing Android on PCs would be cool. It runs on top of Linux, it would pretty much do away with all current Desktop Linux variants I&#x27;m guessing. I could be missing something since I can&#x27;t read the full story, it requires me to create an account or sign in. It might even give Windows a run for its money, heck I&#x27;d finally have a real reason to make and sell Android apps since I can actually read the fonts on my desktop &quot;PC&quot;.
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Zigurdover 9 years ago
I wonder if the name &quot;Pixel C&quot; for the new tablet presaged this.<p>But Pixel C is a pricey device. Chromebooks can be made very inexpensively. And Android would be suckey in an inexpensive laptop non-touch form-factor. I assume they have thought of this.<p>This will also be an interesting trajectory for getting tablet devices into business settings. It&#x27;s not the response I expected to iPad Pro. I&#x27;d really like an Android-based direct competitor, which Pixel C isn&#x27;t. Close, but not really.<p>If they do it right, it could be what Windows could have been: One browser runtime, one managed language runtime, one implementation language (or a family of them that compile to the same bytecode), across all form factors. But that &quot;across all form factors&quot; has eluded a solution so far. I don&#x27;t blame Apple for not trying to get there first.
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