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Ask HN: Why doesn't nasa.gov get its url to work?

7 pointsby jlm382over 15 years ago
Is it not ridiculous that well-funded high-tech agencies like nasa don't have their direct @ url working? I can't access or ping nasa.gov, yet www.nasa.gov works. Are they being lazy, or is there a deeper reason for why they would do this?

6 comments

thwartedover 15 years ago
They don't have an A record for nasa.gov. For those who don't have dig (or don't care enough to do an actual DNS request and would rather trust some other, lesser tool):<p><pre><code> $ dig nasa.gov ; &#60;&#60;&#62;&#62; DiG 9.6.1-P2-RedHat-9.6.1-7.P2.fc11 &#60;&#60;&#62;&#62; nasa.gov ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -&#62;&#62;HEADER&#60;&#60;- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 40211 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;nasa.gov. IN A ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: nasa.gov. 300 IN SOA ns1.nasa.gov. dns.nasa.gov. 2008043229 10800 1200 3600000 14400 </code></pre> No A records.<p><pre><code> $ dig www.nasa.gov ; &#60;&#60;&#62;&#62; DiG 9.6.1-P2-RedHat-9.6.1-7.P2.fc11 &#60;&#60;&#62;&#62; www.nasa.gov ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -&#62;&#62;HEADER&#60;&#60;- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 22541 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 9, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.nasa.gov. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.nasa.gov. 300 IN CNAME www.nasa.gov.speedera.net. www.nasa.gov.speedera.net. 120 IN CNAME www.nasa.gov.edgesuite.net. www.nasa.gov.edgesuite.net. 21600 IN CNAME a1718.x.akamai.net. a1718.x.akamai.net. 20 IN A 64.81.79.72 a1718.x.akamai.net. 20 IN A 64.81.79.70 </code></pre> Looks like the whole site is served through Akamai too.<p>What's a "direct @ url" ? Now we're overloading the @ for something else too?
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zosiover 15 years ago
By saying that it's not working, you assume that a raw domain.com is "broken" if it doesn't resolve to an address which is presumably the same as www.domain.com, which is pretty much baseless. There's no technical reason for a bare domain to resolve to anything, it's just a popular convention to make it redirect to www.domain.com because most people who type that into a browser expect your web site to come up.<p>Why not just add a CNAME for convenience? Who knows. They may have an internal technical reason, or it may just be a case of "don't do something unnecessary just because it's easy". For what it's worth, government agencies have a pretty good variety - army.mil and navy.mil both have the same behavior as nasa.gov, whitehouse.gov and justice.gov both have redirects to the "canonical" www url and house.gov and senate.gov both serve the same content as their www versions without a redirect either way.<p>Regardless of their particular reason, I see no cause to assume that it's due to laziness, funding level or how "high-tech" they are. It's just a convention that they don't use, but you expect.
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tdm911over 15 years ago
Although a smaller scale, the Australian Bureau of Meteorology has the same problem. bom.gov.au doesn't resolve to anything.<p>For what it's worth, Firefox will change nasa.gov to www.nasa.gov.au but won't do the same for bom.gov.au. Internet Explorer won't do this at all.
TrevorBurnhamover 15 years ago
I recall a time (late '90s) when microsoft.com was similarly afflicted. Seriously. That was back when everyone instinctively typed "www," though.<p>In this case, I'm sure it's a temporary glitch.
babyboy808over 15 years ago
They must have heard you. Works fine using nasa.gov<p>EDIT: using firefox. What browser are you using?
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zacharydangerover 15 years ago
This is part of a really old host-naming convention from when a domain name's usage wasn't 99.999% web. So people would relegate their world wide web servers out to www.&#60;theirdomain&#62;.