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Google doesn't recognise or penalise stolen content

98 pointsby ollieglassover 9 years ago

13 comments

bpodgurskyover 9 years ago
I think this is pretty fair on Google&#x27;s part. How could you possibly figure out who owned content?<p>What if I published a book, it was copy-pasted in blogs, and then later I put it somewhere crawlable by Google? You certainly can&#x27;t just say &quot;first time we saw it, that&#x27;s the proper owner&quot;. It would either require a massive amount of manual QA to get right (and even then, there are going to be interminable copyright battles), or have a super high error rate.<p>I think Google&#x27;s best value is letting proper content owners easily find violators via normal searches, and let them deal with them via takedown notices or the court system -- which is where it should be done, not in a pseudo-court run by a Google who does not want what responsibility.
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55555over 9 years ago
I was huge into SEO for a few years. I try to stay out of it now, but it&#x27;s worth noting that this is almost certainly due to the current algorithm&#x27;s obsession with &quot;freshness.&quot; The weaker site is ranking higher with the stolen content because their site was updated more recently. Steal some back and I bet they swap ranks again.<p>Also, the combination of the pagerank algorithm and normal user behavior typically helps Google to understand who was first and who deserves to rank higher. That is, most people don&#x27;t plagiarize content, they quote it and then cite the source, which (thanks to pagerank) tends to rank the original better than sites which have plagiarized it.
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Animatsover 9 years ago
This came up before on YC.[1] Google does have a system to detect provenance, but you have to report your changes to Google as an RSS feed.[2] Google hasn&#x27;t updated that page since 2010, and it may no longer do anything.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10103545" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10103545</a> [2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubsubhubbub.appspot.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;pubsubhubbub.appspot.com&#x2F;</a>
tomschlickover 9 years ago
And they shouldn&#x27;t. Thats not their job.
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DarkLinkXXXXover 9 years ago
This may be pedantic, but is stolen the right word to use?<p>I think plagiarized is more accurate.
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Daneel_over 9 years ago
What a rubbish article.. It doesn&#x27;t fly for a second under copyright law. Google is entirely within their rights doing what they&#x27;re doing. The onus isn&#x27;t on Google to detect the infringing content.<p>For anyone interested in copyright and legal issues, I&#x27;d recommend checking out techdirt.com. They have a great starter section at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.techdirt.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;?tag=techdirt+feature" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.techdirt.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;?tag=techdirt+feature</a>, and they cover legal, copyright, patent, surveillance and all sorts of related topics. High quality journalism.
6stringmercover 9 years ago
Is this any better&#x2F;worse than Facebook actively trying to profit and win over users when people or organizations copy &#x2F; upload &#x2F; soak up views for material they did not create and don&#x27;t have the rights to use? Because that&#x27;s a hot-point of discussion in some creative circles as well.
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nkozyraover 9 years ago
Recognizing &quot;stolen&quot; content autonomously can only pivot on knowing when something was first published or visible to Google, which is a pretty dubious measurement.
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randyrandover 9 years ago
The title should more accurately be Google <i>search.</i> Many parts of Google, for instance Youtube definitely do penalize stolen content.
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jeremy7600over 9 years ago
Advertisement post?
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hlmenckenover 9 years ago
This is not stealing, and even if it is illegal that is a bad way to put it. Also, google&#x27;s service is primarily to the searcher so this isn&#x27;t a huge issue for them.
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jakeoghover 9 years ago
It&#x27;s downright tragic to ask for more rules.
sismocover 9 years ago
There is no such thing as &quot;Stolen&quot; content.
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