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Announcing .NET Core and ASP.NET 5 RC

311 pointsby dstaheliover 9 years ago

17 comments

blinkingledover 9 years ago
Microsoft is on a roll - they&#x27;ve got command line installable packages of the .NET execution environment for all 3 platforms - OSX, Linux and Windows! (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;get.asp.net&#x2F;OtherDownloads" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;get.asp.net&#x2F;OtherDownloads</a>)<p>Can&#x27;t wait to figure out what you can do with this on Linux. Anyone knows? Maybe not desktop apps but Web Apps should be doable at this stage?
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nikonover 9 years ago
While looking around I thought it was cool that Microsoft developers are directly helping popular libraries become compatible with the new .NET Core.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;castleproject&#x2F;Core&#x2F;issues&#x2F;90" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;castleproject&#x2F;Core&#x2F;issues&#x2F;90</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nunit&#x2F;nunit&#x2F;issues&#x2F;575" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;nunit&#x2F;nunit&#x2F;issues&#x2F;575</a>
SideburnsOfDoomover 9 years ago
This is also a Release Candidate of the ASP.NET web framework.<p><i>edit</i> Actually, the ASP MVC part has also progressed to RC1 as you can see here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;aspnet&#x2F;Mvc&#x2F;releases" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;aspnet&#x2F;Mvc&#x2F;releases</a><p>Confusingly, the next release is ASP Version 5 and ASP MVC version 6.<p>Also important: &quot;supported on Windows, OS X and Linux&quot;
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yodonover 9 years ago
This would be a lot more exciting if it actually worked with IIS but it looks like they rushed this out, calling it a &quot;release candidate&quot; in order to be able to say it was out in time for the Connect conference without actually hitting the kind of bar one expects from a release candidate.<p>Their github issue pages are full of unresolved issues around problems with ASP.NET 5 and IIS [0][1][2], and the official docs on publishing ASP.NET 5 to IIS have a significant and incomplete list of &quot;common errors&quot; people are encountering [3].<p>Personally, I&#x27;m seeing responses from Kestrel when hitting ASP.NET 5 hosted pages under IIS, but they are zero-byte error 404 responses which don&#x27;t help much. It&#x27;s all great in Visual Studio but it&#x27;s a big zero when trying to actually use it for real. This is not a release candidate. At best it&#x27;s a 9th beta.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;aspnet&#x2F;IISIntegration&#x2F;issues&#x2F;14" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;aspnet&#x2F;IISIntegration&#x2F;issues&#x2F;14</a> [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;aspnet&#x2F;Hosting&#x2F;issues&#x2F;466" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;aspnet&#x2F;Hosting&#x2F;issues&#x2F;466</a> [2] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;aspnet&#x2F;Hosting&#x2F;issues&#x2F;364" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;aspnet&#x2F;Hosting&#x2F;issues&#x2F;364</a> [3] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.asp.net&#x2F;en&#x2F;latest&#x2F;publishing&#x2F;iis.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;docs.asp.net&#x2F;en&#x2F;latest&#x2F;publishing&#x2F;iis.html</a>
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hitgeekover 9 years ago
Should .Net Core be considered a competitor to Mono? Why would someone use Mono when they can use a multi-platform .Net RT straight from Microsoft?
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frikover 9 years ago
&gt; MaxPath<p>Oh, Microsoft finally woke up and supports path longer than 260 chars in dotNetCore. So, the questions when will Microsoft WinAPI &amp; and the Windows Shell&#x2F;Explorer too? Will we probably have for Windows 11...
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speedkillsover 9 years ago
I hope this means we are a little closer to powershell for OS X and Linux.
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kamacover 9 years ago
Great. I was looking forward to a good alternative with decent syntax to PHP, and now that ASP.NET can run on linux, there&#x27;s nothing that stops people from using it over PHP.<p>Honestly I wonder what reason would one have to choose PHP over ASP.NET for their apps in a few months &#x2F; years time.
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shortstuffsushiover 9 years ago
As someone who has avoided Microsoft in the past, I&#x27;ve found myself in a position to write a few projects lately on the C# .NET platform, and actually find myself eager to have this available on OS X. I actually enjoyed a lot of features of Visual Studio specifically (I realize this isn&#x27;t coming yet), but the platform itself really just feels pretty nice and natural.
BuckRogersover 9 years ago
I&#x27;ve been eagerly keeping a close eye on .Net Core. Congratulations to the teams that have been working on this! It&#x27;s long overdue and I can assure you many others are keenly interested in this.<p>For myself, mainly because as primarily a Python programmer I&#x27;ve been looking for where to move next with the 2&#x2F;3 split. I&#x27;ve migrated completely to PyPy4 (which is Python2.7) rather than port&#x2F;test to CPython3 in the last few years. It was worth the migration and testing that was involved.<p>I&#x27;m waiting to see if PyPy will announce they are the flag bearers for Python2. If so, I&#x27;ll most likely continue using it going forward.<p>On the other hand we use .Net and Python at work so while most people would not agree or find .Net Core to be a bit pointless, for me it means I can move my projects and small business to run on my underpowered VPS, utilizing the same well-supported tech stack that many enterprises use.<p>Keeping my head in C# is a good advantage as I&#x27;m also interested in Xamarin and Unity (both professionally and personally). Of course, I&#x27;m one who does not have any particular grudge against Microsoft. I do prefer POSIX based systems. For my home business and hobby tech stack I&#x27;m currently looking at 1) PyPy4, 2) .NetCore 3) CPython3. While I&#x27;m currently running everything on PyPy4, there&#x27;s a smaller gap between 1 and 2, and a big liklihood of adoption gap between 2 and 3.
benmorrisover 9 years ago
Exciting to see the rc released. I&#x27;ve been waiting up until this point to really dive into a project.<p>One of the things that will be a huge barrier for me though is the lack of system.drawing. I&#x27;ve worked in the sign and graphics industry for 8 years and a lot of software I have written relies on system.drawing. The font rendering is crucial. It appears the only feasible option is the mono implementation.(and maybe that is good enough)<p>Looking ahead I&#x27;m curious if there will ever be aa coreclr replacement for this? It seems Microsoft closed the open issue regarding this.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;dotnet&#x2F;corefx&#x2F;issues&#x2F;2020#event-360344181" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;dotnet&#x2F;corefx&#x2F;issues&#x2F;2020#event-360344181</a>
sdevlinover 9 years ago
Is MVC the default ASP.NET workflow now? Is it the only workflow? Are Web Forms still supported?
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akxover 9 years ago
&gt; For the most part, we have transitioned our focus to performance, reliability and overal quality.<p>I giggled at that, I admit.
StriverGuyover 9 years ago
This is really exciting!
ghrifterover 9 years ago
For hosting an MVC 5 app is Azure the way to go?
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it_learnsesover 9 years ago
can we please have a fully functional bash on windows?
euroclydonover 9 years ago
Sigh. Different release. Different error trying to get the hello world application running on a mac. One day...
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