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“Facebook Is the Internet” and Other Things Media People Debate at Dinner

62 pointsby zbravoover 9 years ago

9 comments

chewxyover 9 years ago
Related: I was recently in Malaysia for a holiday. I bought a SIM card that promised unlimited internet (protip: unlimited anything usually a red flag, I should have known better)<p>It turned out that I couldn&#x27;t use 4G to surf the net. All I could do was read Twitter. I went back to the shop and complained about this breach of contract. It turns out I didn&#x27;t understand that &quot;unlimited internet&quot; meant &quot;unlimited Facebook, Twitter, whatsapp, and Line&quot;. It didn&#x27;t mean unlimited data.<p>I then spent the next 30 mins arguing with the shop person in a language that I&#x27;m rusty in, that no, I don&#x27;t care about Whatsapp or Facebook or Instagram. I care that I can browse the web with a bloody browser, and connect to my machines via SSH, and no, what the plan promised was in NO WAY unlimited internet.<p>Still kinda pissed off over it
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ryandrakeover 9 years ago
The Internet could be better off if the AOL-ian masses started believing &quot;Facebook is the Internet.&quot; Let them all move over there--a Reverse Eternal September [1]! It would be even better if all the crap moved over to Facebook with them. All the spam, trolls, ads, tracking, malware, etc. could follow the masses, leaving the rest of us in peace.<p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Eternal_September" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Eternal_September</a>
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cryoshonover 9 years ago
Hm, a bunch of relatively shortsighted and narrow-scope bullet points.<p>I like to summarize the trends and inaccuracies in the article as the &quot;mainstreamization of the internet as the primary mode of life&quot;. The internet is now the primary technology for play, work, general communications, commerce, social life, and human knowledge. 10 years ago, the internet still had tinges of being a hobbyist project, and you probably wouldn&#x27;t be able to find your grandma on Myspace or another equivalent. That era was a smarter, more innocent, and smaller time for the internet, though even then it was vast and deep.<p>The arrival of the TV cohort to the internet (via Myspace and Facebook&#x27;s gateways) necessitated a departure from the non-commercialized function-emphatic early days of the net. The media companies correctly view these people as their money farm, and allowing them to escape to the internet isn&#x27;t acceptable. As a result, we now have internet commodities (user information, paywalled content) that are sustained by the masses. In some ways, the commodification of the internet resulted in unification many smaller content and social sites into a few giants. During this unification, the depth and variety of content on the internet took a huge hit.<p>At this point, mainstream internet is approaching the locked-down nature of TV, though to the user there is significantly more freedom of customization of content to be consumed. For the most part, people who use the internet for Netflix and Facebook (and probably a few other big name sites) are viewing the same pre-prepared frame of content that they were via the TV, and getting more out of it as they did before in terms of content.<p>I have to say, there is very little for intelligent&#x2F;technical people to consume on this mainstream internet relative to the days of yore. Watering everything down for proliterian consumption means that the deep, obtuse, technical, inscrutable, or complex content and discussion is forced far away from the &quot;front pages&quot; so as not to confuse or frighten the primary consumers who are largely treated like children. Of course, there&#x27;s still bastions of sanity, but you&#x27;d need to seek them out or find them via word of mouth. It&#x27;s not so bad, but effectively places like HN are tiny fiefdoms that are far removed from the reddit&#x2F;facebook&#x2F;netflix&#x2F;whatever dreck that is dominant.
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Sven7over 9 years ago
Media people ruined the internet.
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deadowlover 9 years ago
Facebook is essentially the second coming of AOL.
NoMoreNicksLeftover 9 years ago
The person who wrote this could be an alien from the planet Zepton III, for all my ability to relate to him and his opinions.
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butler14over 9 years ago
-- But when people in tech and media company meetings say “social,” they really just mean “Facebook.” --<p>And when you say &quot;Internet&quot; you actually mean &quot;Web&quot;.<p>Also, you&#x27;ve omitted Google entirely from your somewhat warped mental model of the web.
bicknergsengover 9 years ago
“Ugh, I only watch like 10% of the stuff on Netflix. Can’t I pay 89 cents instead of $8.99?”<p>I mean... $8.99 is already 10% of the $89.99+ that you&#x27;d have to pay to get a cable subscription with premium channels and HBO, but I think this is still an interesting argument. Does make you think about the power Netflix holds though: little stopping them from expanding services and prices until they are the new old cable company. Personally, I think even Netflix will eventually have to do what people have been demanding from the cable companies: break services into more a la carte (but still all you can eat) options.
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soaredover 9 years ago
I just disagree with so many of the author&#x27;s points its not even worth refuting them, because that would be an feature length article in itself.