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How Not to Die of Botulism (2013)

61 pointsby timromanover 9 years ago

8 comments

DanBCover 9 years ago
This article doesn&#x27;t talk about &quot;wound botulism&quot;. This is most often found with injecting heroin users who inject into muscle not a vein.<p>For example, in the UK between 1980 and 2013 there were only 36 cases of food borne botulism, but 147 cases of wound botulism between 2000 and 2013.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nhs.uk&#x2F;Conditions&#x2F;Botulism&#x2F;Pages&#x2F;Introduction.aspx" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nhs.uk&#x2F;Conditions&#x2F;Botulism&#x2F;Pages&#x2F;Introduction.asp...</a>
pmoriartyover 9 years ago
<i>&quot;Brazenly, he sampled a few drops of this extract himself&quot;</i>[1]<p>These days if a researcher dared confess that he tried some research compound on himself he&#x27;d be charged with loss of objectivity, or be considered crazy or just plain weird. But not too long ago self-experimentation by researchers was quite a common and accepted practice. It could even be considered the ethical thing to do: before letting the compound be tried by others you should of course try it yourself.<p>There&#x27;s a book on the history of self-experimentation in medicine, called &quot;Who Goes First?&quot;[2]<p>[1] - &quot;he&quot; being Justinus Kerner, &quot;the first scientist to publish an accurate and comprehensive description of the disease&quot;<p>[2] - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Who-Goes-First-Self-Experimentation-Medicine&#x2F;dp&#x2F;0520212819&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Who-Goes-First-Self-Experimentation-M...</a>
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madengrover 9 years ago
Wow, didn&#x27;t know that &quot;nitrate free&quot; really isn&#x27;t nitrate free.<p>I use to make kimchi a lot. I wonder of the lactic acid produced by the bacteria on cabbage inhibits botulism growth?
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amdolanover 9 years ago
I was curious about pruno, and found this poem on the way:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pen.org&#x2F;poetry&#x2F;recipe-prison-pruno" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.pen.org&#x2F;poetry&#x2F;recipe-prison-pruno</a>
PhantomGremlinover 9 years ago
The article doesn&#x27;t mention a &quot;big&quot; commercial botulism case. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;1971_Bon_Vivant_botulism_case" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;1971_Bon_Vivant_botulism_case</a><p>I put &quot;big&quot; in quotes because only one person died. But it caused quite the scare, people were afraid of eating canned soup. The company went bankrupt.<p>Not nearly as deadly as E. coli. E.g. in 1993, 732 people were infected and four died from undercooked hamburger at Jack In The Box.[1] And it continues. A quick google found an article that claims[2]<p><pre><code> approximately 100,000 illnesses, 3,000 hospitalizations, and 90 deaths annually in the United States </code></pre> [1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;1993_Jack_in_the_Box_E._coli_outbreak" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;1993_Jack_in_the_Box_E._coli_o...</a> [2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.about-ecoli.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.about-ecoli.com&#x2F;</a>
erikcwover 9 years ago
Dave Arnold&#x27;s &quot;Cooking Issues&quot;[0] podcast is an excellent source of high quality information about all sorts of related food and kitchen equipment hacking.<p>He had a very interesting segment about the open source HACCP plan discussed in this article a couple of weeks ago. I highly recommend his stuff!<p>[0] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cookingissues.com&#x2F;index.html%3Fp=4532.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cookingissues.com&#x2F;index.html%3Fp=4532.html</a>
0xdeadbeefbabeover 9 years ago
Hmmm just made some sauerkraut; I used the potato masher to mash it down, after mashing some potatoes. This article didn&#x27;t help me not die of botulism if I do.
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dghughesover 9 years ago
I&#x27;m not clicking the link since it&#x27;s The Atlantic but and may they mentioned this in the article botulinum toxin is the most lethal thing in earth. It&#x27;s staggering to know even plutonium or some nerve gas are not as powerful per gram as that little bacterium.
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