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A letter to our daughter

790 pointsby arasmussenover 9 years ago

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prezjordanover 9 years ago
&gt; We will give 99% of our Facebook shares -- currently about $45 billion -- during our lives to advance this mission. We know this is a small contribution compared to all the resources and talents of those already working on these issues. But we want to do what we can, working alongside many others.<p>Ninety. Nine. Percent.
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robert_tweedover 9 years ago
Maybe I&#x27;m being too cynical, but this seems about as philanthropic as Ron Hubbard starting a religion.<p>Firstly, the donation is stock not cash, so the value of this foundation will be directly linked to the value of Facebook shares.<p>Secondly, it has been stated that one of the things this foundation will do is &quot;participate in policy debates&quot;. If the headline was &quot;Mark Zuckerberg to put $45 billion is stock behind lobbying effort to establish Internet.org as a monopoly in developing countries&quot;, that wouldn&#x27;t sound quite so positive, would it?
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ryandrakeover 9 years ago
Something&#x27;s always bugged me about relying on philanthropy as a source of funding the public good, as opposed to the public funding the public good through taxation and the democratic process: In the former case, the public doesn&#x27;t really have much of a say about where the help goes. We must rely on the judgment (and personal values) of a few rich people and hope they pick charities that maximize the benefit.<p>Would the outcome be better or worse if we had, say, a 99% tax bracket at &gt;$N million, and let the public decide the best way to deploy that funding via the ballot box? Would that process better align with the values of a democratic society? Or would we just get more corporate welfare, bombers and aircraft carriers?<p>I&#x27;m not ragging on philanthropy--it&#x27;s awesome that some of these billionaires understand the meaning of &quot;enough&quot; and choose to give away their fortunes to worthy causes. But is it best for society to leave it to a few lucky &#x27;elite&#x27; to judge what is and isn&#x27;t a worthy cause?
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colmvpover 9 years ago
I feel only on HN and Reddit can people find reason to criticize a guy who is giving away billions of dollars for humanity. Talk about not seeing the forest for the trees.
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dhcarover 9 years ago
This seems more like PR than a genuine letter to a child. Which is fine, but I wish they&#x27;d treat it as such.<p>They talk about facebook, donations, improving the world, their beliefs, etc. but very little on how to be a better person or how to enjoy life. Maybe I&#x27;m projecting, but what would you want to find in your pillow after moving in for your first day of college?<p>I hope they wrote their daughter a real letter. One directed to her and not something that will be tweeted by hundreds of news organizations.
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cpursleyover 9 years ago
Why are the techno-barons so focused on human health? Not that there&#x27;s anything wrong with these efforts, but human disease is much less of a threat to our species and planet than an ever-increasing human population. What I&#x27;m saying is that humans have little difficulty reproducing; it&#x27;s a solved problem.<p>What&#x27;s not a solved problem is our disappearing fisheries[1], rhinos going extinct all over the place[2], farmland desertification[3], tropical deforestation[4], ocean acidification[5]... From my back of the envelope math, it seems that longer lives and a larger population will exacerbate our environmental and resource issues.<p>I&#x27;d like to see billionaires purchase large tracks of land simply for preservation. Cleaning up industrial waste from rivers. Foot the salaries of anti-poaching efforts. Get clean fusion energy production up and running. That sort of thing. Perhaps we should get our planet&#x27;s shit together before tackling immortality?<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;posteverything&#x2F;wp&#x2F;2014&#x2F;06&#x2F;03&#x2F;the-end-of-fish&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;posteverything&#x2F;wp&#x2F;2014&#x2F;06&#x2F;03&#x2F;t...</a><p>[2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnn.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;04&#x2F;16&#x2F;africa&#x2F;kenya-northern-white-rhino&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnn.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;04&#x2F;16&#x2F;africa&#x2F;kenya-northern-white-rh...</a><p>[3] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;world-africa-34790661" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;world-africa-34790661</a><p>[4] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;commentisfree&#x2F;2015&#x2F;oct&#x2F;30&#x2F;indonesia-fires-disaster-21st-century-world-media" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;commentisfree&#x2F;2015&#x2F;oct&#x2F;30&#x2F;indones...</a><p>[5] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fm.kuac.org&#x2F;post&#x2F;increasing-ocean-acidity-threatens-marine-food-web-circumpolar-waters" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fm.kuac.org&#x2F;post&#x2F;increasing-ocean-acidity-threatens-m...</a>
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chegraover 9 years ago
Sometimes, I think people on HN probably think they get points for being the most cynical critic.<p>Can&#x27;t we just say, &quot;Dude we are happy for you, and thanks for the money.&quot;<p>And what happened to the rule about not saying stuff you wouldn&#x27;t say to a person&#x27;s face. Would you be calling Mark a narcissist to his face? Keep it civil people.
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djhnover 9 years ago
Zuckerberg isn&#x27;t planning on retiring.<p>He will rival Bill Gates in the magnitude of philanthropic contributions.<p>And in other news Facebook Notes is challenging Medium as the default one-column publishing tool.<p>Note as well, that of all the immaterial goods that have the potential to create immense value to people and humanity, education and health are the ones strongly highlighted. Global equality is there, but to a critic this too will be seen as another factor in building and supporting an ever-growing, and long-living, consumerist middle class.<p>There is very little said about freedom, democracy, privacy, justice or self-determination. Even if this reading is unfair, cynical or simply too demanding of what this text and announcement is. Not to mention detracting from what is otherwise a highly admirable act.
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hellofunkover 9 years ago
I&#x27;m signed up for CNN&#x27;s &quot;Breaking News&quot; emails that are sent out whenever some earth-shattering crisis occurs or particularly important news that affects everyone. I received one of these email alerts upon the arrival of their daughter. This gave me a great sigh; good news for them, but how did it become worthy of worldwide immediate news notification?
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abaloneover 9 years ago
Couple problems with this otherwise well-intentioned effort:<p>1. It&#x27;s a drop in the bucket compared to what governments spend on a regular basis trying to solve these problems. (Bill Gates has said as much.)<p>2. Private charity by the billionaire class is not a scalable solution. Historically most social advancement has happened through popular organization and government programs, not charity.<p>Silicon Valley itself is a product of government spending. The Internet and thus Facebook wouldn&#x27;t exist without billions of taxpayer investment in early stage high risk research and procurement via DARPA and other government agencies. That continues today (just a couple examples: Siri and autonomous vehicles).<p>If we are serious about accomplishing social change and &quot;long term investments over 25, 50 or even 100 years,&quot; the answers lie in greater government investment in these areas. Just like Silicon Valley. And that means <i>all</i> Silicon Valley companies should be paying back to the government just as they would an early stage investor. Not as a &quot;noble choice&quot; but as an obligation. (Currently they get the core tech pretty much for free.) That would drum up an order of magnitude more funding for much-needed social projects.<p>I&#x27;d like to hear more Silicon Valley CEOs talk about that.
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rrggrrover 9 years ago
I&#x27;m not trolling, as much as it will seem the opposite, but I feel compelled to wonder about postnatal mania (mild postpartum psychosis) as I read the letter. I wonder how different (or private) the letter may have been had it come four months from now. I wonder how many really significant acts of charity and kindness by the super wealthy and influential occur in the days following childbirth. Just wondering aloud here.
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nbardyover 9 years ago
Reading this is impossible to not to think of Bill Gates. Someone who realized the impact his money can have. Many people in this industry have been influenced by the actions of Gates, especially in the tech community. As a 20 something the money I make certainty pales in comparison to that of Gates or Zuckerberg, but even at a low rate for the tech industry it is much above that of my friends, many of who have worked much harder to get to where they are. It is difficult to be in a position to give help and refuse. Perhaps the effect Gates can have on the minds of the wealthy will be even greater than the already vast contributions he has produced.
masterponomoover 9 years ago
Just wow. I asked my parents how my birth changed their lives. They said they had to invest in some good ear plugs (for themselves) as a sleep aid, and that they lost a sock drawer until I graduated to the futon. While I did not spark the solving of the world&#x27;s problems, at least I did have some small impact.
webwanderingsover 9 years ago
Never much cared for Zuckerberg but this changes my perspective.<p>Off-topic: can Facebook please go ahead and literally kill the blogging industry by giving the ability for everyone to use these updated Notes section? As is, the majority of the referrer on the Internet is Facebook. They might as well get the blogs out of the way.
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zeofigover 9 years ago
It astounds me that people are taken in by this. There are so many ways that Zuckerberg can manipulate this to his self-worshiping benefit that I can&#x27;t even guess which ones he&#x27;ll pick. Consider the type of charity Zuckerberg has previously favoured: totally monopolistic internet infrastructure in India. Sure, people get internet, but it&#x27;ll Zuckernet from now until forever. Philanthropy is a broken system, because powerful philanthropists never really give away their money: they retain control of whatever the charity is used to build. When you have everything and it&#x27;s not enough, that kind of control is worth a lot of dollars to you.
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uptownover 9 years ago
&quot;As you begin the next generation of the Chan Zuckerberg family, we also begin the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative to join people across the world to advance human potential and promote equality for all children in the next generation. Our initial areas of focus will be personalized learning, curing disease, connecting people and building strong communities.<p>We will give 99% of our Facebook shares -- currently about $45 billion -- during our lives to advance this mission. We know this is a small contribution compared to all the resources and talents of those already working on these issues. But we want to do what we can, working alongside many others.&quot;
roymurdockover 9 years ago
Mark has set some ambitious goals regarding poverty, disease, nutrition, and equality, and connectivity. I hope for all of our sake that he is successful in realigning many of the perverse short-term incentives through his and his Priscilla&#x27;s generous contributions and efforts.<p>I wish he had spoken more about luck and balance. This is something that Bill &amp; Melinda Gates, as well as Warren Buffet do very well. Understanding luck and balance is the key to empathy, which is also a phrase that is missing from this letter.<p>I also wish he had not marketed this press release as a letter to his daughter. Perhaps he has another, private letter that is actually more relevant and personal, but if I were Max, I probably wouldn&#x27;t be thrilled to read this 20 years down the road.<p>But I&#x27;m sure he had a reason to release this letter as he did, and that he thought for a long, hard time before penning these words. Best of luck to the new father, mother, and daughter.
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seanhandleyover 9 years ago
I find it disgusting that he&#x27;s just had his first child and is already piggybacking a PR exercise off it.<p>In spite of the enormity of the announcement, to tie it up as &quot;A letter to our daughter&quot; is deeply crass and makes me feel queasy.
YorkianTonesover 9 years ago
Applause to the Zuck for the public commitment to invest 99% of his fortune in charitable causes.<p>Providing cheap, reliable internet to underserved areas of the planet seems like an achievable goal. Much of the technology is present, and so this goal can be attacked now given available funding. The technology should improve further and become cheaper in the near horizon. Go for it Zuck. Make a dent.<p>&quot;Curing disease&quot;, however, or &quot;learning and experiencing 100x more than we do today&quot; - these trite and nebulous platitudes seem line lines stolen from HBO&#x27;s Silicon Valley script. &quot;Eradicating polio&quot; is a concrete, well-scoped, measurable, and realistic goal (regardless of whether its is the best apportioning of resources). &quot;Curing disease&quot; is not. Does someone who&#x27;s married to a doctor really believe that all disease is eradicable in the next 100 years? Must we resort to impossible moonshots and unqualified invocations like &quot;Make the world a better place!&quot;? Something like &quot;colonize space!&quot; is not a helpful goal; &quot;build a habitation on Mars which produces enough food, water, and O2 to sustain 5 people for a year&quot; begins to be.<p>This pedestrian rallying cry is a chaotic amalgam of cliches. I hope Zuckerberg puts more thought, organization, and direction into how he will invest his billions for the betterment of posterity.
littletimmyover 9 years ago
This leaves a bad taste in my mouth, for some reason. Must one&#x27;s private life be this public? I get that Zuckerberg doesn&#x27;t agree with privacy, but surely putting his daughter in the public limelight as soon as she is born is an imposition on her privacy.<p>Maybe I&#x27;m just getting old.
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mei0Ieshover 9 years ago
Some thoughts:<p>* Addressing a public press release to your private child&#x27;s name<p>* Naming the initiative with your family&#x27;s name<p>* Calling for &quot;change now&quot; as if the world isn&#x27;t already working very hard every day towards progress<p>* Looks like a move out of a strategic playbook some advisers gave for &quot;how to be President someday&quot;<p>* Looks like they&#x27;re marketing themselves as the royal family, like Facebook is the new kingdom<p>* Looks like that smug thing that&#x27;s hip today where people compete to be most charitable<p>* Reminds me of the Melinda and Bill Gates thing, and the Google medical research thing<p>Part of this is the perspective of engineers who believe everything is solvable if you just build something to do it. If it isn&#x27;t built yet, it must be because we&#x27;re not working hard and fast enough. That if someone has billions of dollars, and are just willing to fund an initiative, they can take credit for curing all disease.<p>Part of it is the fear that&#x27;s faced by people who felt invincible when they become old, or have a newborn infant. When you can purchase anything, the new difficulties are things like bacteria, viruses, and entropy. When you are a god in the eyes of the society and economy, yet a worm in the eyes of biology and ecology, there&#x27;s no longer a clear path towards how to solve your daily concerns. If you&#x27;re poor and need food, there&#x27;s simple steps you can follow to acquire what you need. But when you&#x27;re wealthy, what do you do to get well from illness, to escape the pains of aging?<p>These people, and much of the digital society today, need perspective and psychological understanding beyond what they have. But you won&#x27;t see an initiative for that.
dpc_pwover 9 years ago
Aren&#x27;t this &quot;foundations&quot; essentially just tax loopholes for the rich?<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.salon.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;04&#x2F;12&#x2F;10_tax_dodges_that_help_the_rich_get_richer_partner&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.salon.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;04&#x2F;12&#x2F;10_tax_dodges_that_help_the_...</a><p>read point 4.
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jordiggover 9 years ago
Hope many more will follow, my sincere admiration.<p>Here the SEC filling: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sec.gov&#x2F;Archives&#x2F;edgar&#x2F;data&#x2F;1326801&#x2F;000132680115000035&#x2F;form8kdec2015.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sec.gov&#x2F;Archives&#x2F;edgar&#x2F;data&#x2F;1326801&#x2F;0001326801150...</a>
rregoover 9 years ago
First time I&#x27;ve heard of Facebook Notes, which apparently aren&#x27;t new at all. The notes that I do see aren&#x27;t styled the same way as Zuckerberg&#x27;s letter.
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seanlinehanover 9 years ago
&gt; Can we truly empower everyone -- women, children, underrepresented minorities, immigrants and the <i>unconnected</i>?<p>Part of me thinks that Zuck means people without family or otherwise ties to wealth and influence. But another part of me thinks that he means those that aren&#x27;t connected to the internet. If it&#x27;s the latter, this is quite the bold statement. The implication would be that people without access to the internet are structurally disadvantaged. Which in a lot of ways are true. The internet enables anybody to acquire knowledge, skills, and relationships with an ease that is otherwise impossible. Thankfully, this bucket has a fairly clear solution path.
andr3w321over 9 years ago
I&#x27;m all for rich people giving their mass fortunes to charity but they sure do seem to take a long time to do it. Bill Gates is STILL the richest person on the planet in 2015 and his wealth GREW $3.2 billion last year. Can we save the praise for giving away $44 billion until he actually gives it away?<p>Source: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;kerryadolan&#x2F;2015&#x2F;03&#x2F;02&#x2F;inside-the-2015-forbes-billionaires-list-facts-and-figures&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;kerryadolan&#x2F;2015&#x2F;03&#x2F;02&#x2F;inside-th...</a>
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awl130over 9 years ago
from an evolutionary psychology standpoint, we are all driven to constantly increase our social value (and indirectly that of our offspring). once you hit a certain level of wealth, it is rational for you to shift your attention from making more money. your social value is only increased by wealth up to a certain amount, after which the marginal returns in social capital approach zero for every additional dollar earned. to put it simply, how much more social value do you have with $1 billion versus $2 billion? The world is indifferent. At that point, you are simply a rich person.<p>once you reach such an inflection point of wealth, you must find an alternative means of increasing your social capital. there are two common ways: one is to demonstrate your evolutionary fitness in a field completely unrelated to how you amassed your wealth: many rich get into movie production, novel writing or other creative endeavor. These usually fail.<p>another alternative, the safer alternative, is to expend your remaining time and resources advancing social causes (running for an elected office certainly falls under this category). this is the simplest way for an adult, untrained in anything other than their primary business, to increase their social capital.<p>it&#x27;s not a coincidence that zuck is still willing $450mm to his offspring--more than enough to hit that inflection point. he knows that any additional dollar beyond that inflection point provides marginal social value to his offspring.
nemo44xover 9 years ago
New money mistake. You don&#x27;t change the world by putting your money into non-profits but rather cultivating a dynasty that has tentacles in business, government and thus policy.<p>You consolidate this kind of wealth into the proper channels to influence public opinion and thus a much greater sum (measured in trillions) over a greater time to get the real change you believe in.<p>It&#x27;s a good gesture but a losing strategy. But it&#x27;s his money to do as he pleases so, cheers Zuck.
cupover 9 years ago
&quot;Medicine has only been a real science for less than 100 years, and we&#x27;ve already seen complete cures for some diseases and good progress for others.&quot;<p>Thats a bit unfair. Scientists have been painfully working to advance the field of medicine for centuries.
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6stringmercover 9 years ago
Okay, maybe it&#x27;s just me, but after reading the introduction and getting through the list of extremely difficult &quot;Can we...&quot; challenges followed by the &quot;We must...&quot; directives, the first quote that popped into my head was a variation of <i>“a poor man is crazy, but a rich man is just ‘eccentric.’”</i><p>I get the desire to solve the world&#x27;s ills, of society&#x27;s shortcomings, of essentially fixing the thousands of years of evolutionary programming to craft a utopia. What sane person would sit down and say &quot;You know, when I die, I want to leave the world a chaotic fireball of pain and suffering&quot; in all seriousness? Maybe I&#x27;m significantly jaded, but I hope I&#x27;m not the only one who finds such a letter a little bit narcissitic, brought to you by the originator of one of the most narcissitic platforms of the modern era, and hosted on that very platform, naturally.<p>&gt;<i>Our generation grew up in classrooms where we all learned the same things at the same pace regardless of our interests or needs.</i><p>This isn&#x27;t true at all. &quot;Our&quot; generation grew up with having to work to acquire knowledge. To spend time in the library. To sit down and read. To think. It took time, effort, opportunity, and personal investment - so much of which is no longer a priority now.<p>&gt;<i>The internet is so important that for every 10 people who gain internet access, about one person is lifted out of poverty and about one new job is created.</i><p>Citation needed. Like, really.
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subdaneover 9 years ago
No pressure or anything. Love, Mom and Dad.
derefrover 9 years ago
As far as I can tell, this is a speech directed at <i>other billionaires</i>, attempting to 1. put them in an idealistic frame of mind and then 2. making the suggestion that the natural outlet for that idealism is philanthropy, while 3. Putting his own money where his mouth is for some peer-pressure.<p>If that <i>works</i>, then this will singlehandedly be the highest-ROI &quot;evangelism&quot; anyone has ever done. Unlikely, though.
lagudraguover 9 years ago
Not to be cynical, but isn&#x27;t this also just a method to ensure your company will remain for a longer duration? As a decline in facebook stock will indirectly hurt the philanthropic projects which are linked to it through his foundation. I would take his &quot;pledge&quot; more serious if he would invest actual capital (money, resources, ...) in such projects.
tmshover 9 years ago
&quot;He has informed us that he plans to sell or gift no more than $1 billion of Facebook stock each year for the next three years and that he intends to retain his majority voting position in our stock for the foreseeable future.&quot;<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sec.gov&#x2F;Archives&#x2F;edgar&#x2F;data&#x2F;1326801&#x2F;000132680115000035&#x2F;form8kdec2015.htm" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.sec.gov&#x2F;Archives&#x2F;edgar&#x2F;data&#x2F;1326801&#x2F;0001326801150...</a><p>What an amazing donation! But not for the foreseeable future. I don&#x27;t care how multiplicative his voting shares are. If there is no plans to sell them in the foreseeable future, this is a pledge spread out across a generation, decades, while real problems are affecting us every year. Every year where he just capped himself at 1 billion dollars in donations.<p>Why are you applauding this?
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harryfover 9 years ago
&gt; right now, we don&#x27;t always collectively direct our resources at the biggest opportunities and problems your generation will face.<p>One of the biggest problems facing kids in the west is digital addiction. Society as a whole is still collectively in denial here as adults gain from it, from parents who get some peace while the kids play with the iPad to game developers pushing out endless FarmVille clones attempting to get kids hooked enough to convince their parents to approve some in-app payments.<p>The problem is already there - just need to look at the amount of Ritalin being subscribed - <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;society&#x2F;2012&#x2F;may&#x2F;06&#x2F;ritalin-adhd-shocks-child-psychologists" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;society&#x2F;2012&#x2F;may&#x2F;06&#x2F;ritalin-adhd-...</a>
gabeaover 9 years ago
It is unfortunate that we cannot accept the kindness and generosity from those who have been blessed with wealth and whom wishes to share it with others. Rather we ridicule them and surmise that they have some hidden agenda behind their desire to share.
7cupsofteaover 9 years ago
This is very admirable. Hats off to Mark Zuckerberg. Very well done!
querylyover 9 years ago
This is amazing. Money doesn&#x27;t make us live longer, but does $45 billion help bring the future sooner? I bet it does. It will widen our horizons on what&#x27;s possible. Everyone on earth will benefit from it.
aswansonover 9 years ago
I have had some problems with the way his company operates sometimes but I can&#x27;t find a single thing he said I don&#x27;t emphatically agree with here. Hat tip, Mark Z.
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bikamonkiover 9 years ago
Dear Max, you are filthy rich. I accidentally created a very successful social network. People mostly use it to post cat pics, drowned babies, whine about everything and the best possible selfies they can take, or you know, post stuff that is addictive to humans. We then sell ads and well, make tons of cash. I say accidentally created because there where already social nets out there but mine was just out at the right time and had the right funding and coaching we needed. Well, honestly, I also had to screw a couple of guys to get here. Anyway, Maxy, all this is ancient and boring stuff. The deal is that since I have tons of cash and success people think I am smart, I think am smart too, so I ought to know a thing or two about how to solve real world problems. I mean it can&#x27;t be that hard: it is just a matter of developing tech. Billy is throwing 2B to energy research, I can do just the same, see daddy will be a hero too! Anyway dear, this posting personal stuff on Facebook fever just got me and I love you and it is so cool Shakira just likes this post. Also, the post generated a billion views, we sold them ads at premium: your first day on Earth Maxy and you are one million dollars richer! Ok, thats it. Love. Dad.
canes2001over 9 years ago
Many wealthy citizens have only used their wealth to enrich themselves and their families. It is nice to see someone that is focused on making the world a better place.
uhtredover 9 years ago
I&#x27;m so glad I&#x27;m not on Facebook.
altonzhengover 9 years ago
Okay yeah there might be a lot of flaws or criticisms about this, but at the end of the day, this is a net win for society. Go Mark and Priscilla!
cJ0thover 9 years ago
Alternative proposal: Use that money to turn Facebook into a self-sustaining non profit that solely cares about maximizing its users experience and stop breaching privacy so that data can be sold.<p>Perhaps that&#x27;s not as fancy as investments in health, education or the environment but at least it seems very doable and could solve one problem (excellent means for human communication) for good.
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Mark1999over 9 years ago
Thanx Mark. Now that your CIA financed endeavour became a money making machine, you find it is about time to contribute some sort of &quot;philanthropy&quot; to the world. It is no wonder the millions of serfs don&#x27;t waste any time to congratulate you on this great action of yours. Please, a word from the world to American based institutions: Please, stop saving the world. Really, look at what your government is doing to Syria, etc supporting terrorists through CIA controlled channels. And for God&#x27;s sake! Read the reports from World Bank before posting this &quot;i will save the world&quot; letter: Poverty and inequality have risen during the last years, not decreased!
zobzuover 9 years ago
When I read this stuff (as in the letter) I just think one thing:<p>You guys are so full of yourselves.
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pgodzinover 9 years ago
Interesting how internet connectivity is mentioned without a reference to internet.org after that got a lot of net-neutrality heat. Regardless, great to see so much money being invested in so many great causes.
fantasticsidover 9 years ago
Reading some of the comments make me sad. This has happened so often lately..
ausjkeover 9 years ago
A great read indeed, plus a nice picture. I&#x27;m going to print out this and read along with my next generation.<p>I&#x27;m thinking about starting to use facebook again, left it a few years ago.
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keaneover 9 years ago
Disappointed once again in the immediate cynicism here but by now I should know not to be surprised by it in any community where nothing is sacred.
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fijalover 9 years ago
I think a bad sentiment here is mostly generated not about what Mark says on his post, but what he does otherwise. We&#x27;ve seen a fair share of controversy regarding facebook, privacy practices etc, we&#x27;ve seen a fair share of controversy regarding internet.org.<p>I for one find it all skeptical - I don&#x27;t see how his ideas would align with facebook goals as a company
poubover 9 years ago
I would have loved having parents writing such beautiful letter to me for my birth. It’s an extraordinary beautiful welcoming.
jordighover 9 years ago
&gt; Your generation will set goals for what you want to become -- like an engineer, health worker, writer or community leader.<p>Realistically, we can&#x27;t all avoid being garbage collectors or street sweepers, can we? Or will automation really replace all unsavoury jobs with high-paying professions?
sakopovover 9 years ago
Oh lovely. This is the same man who called his users dumb fucks in the infancy of his company. Now he&#x27;s worried about future generations and pushes his corporate agenda innocently using his newborn. Facebook is like a goddamn cult that acts like God&#x27;s gift to humanity.
kafkaesqover 9 years ago
<i>Can we truly empower everyone -- women, children, underrepresented minorities, immigrants and the unconnected?</i><p>Yes you can, Mark: Stop requiring people to use real names. And stop caving in requests from authoritarian governments that want to do their dirty work for them.
NN88over 9 years ago
this melodramatic bs
DyslexicAtheistover 9 years ago
I&#x27;m so excited about the trickle-down economics that I can hardly curb my enthusiasm
astaroth360over 9 years ago
Well, I&#x27;ll say that I appreciate the effort on Zuck&#x27;s part, but somehow I still can&#x27;t make myself like the guy :\<p>Oh well, I guess I don&#x27;t have to like him to appreciate that kind of cash going into worthy causes.
zurnover 9 years ago
Wow, addressing climate change and unsustainable resource consumption are absent from the list and &quot;protecting the environment&quot; is once mentioned in passing.
tmshover 9 years ago
I think this letter and <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;givingpledge.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;givingpledge.org&#x2F;</a> are good.<p>But we all give away wealth when we die. To someone or another.<p>The pledge is not necessarily one of generosity other than looking past one&#x27;s family. Which is something, but less impressive along the generosity dimension than giving away more earlier (while that money has a very real opportunity cost to you).<p>That said, if I had billions of dollars, I&#x27;d be investing in my own research and not giving it away. But that&#x27;s just me.
seansmcculloughover 9 years ago
His daughter is clearly not the intended audience of this post. In fact, the fact he is having a kid has nothing to do with this post.
artur_maklyover 9 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgflip.com&#x2F;i&#x2F;v2fo1" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgflip.com&#x2F;i&#x2F;v2fo1</a>
SCAQTonyover 9 years ago
He just put his baby into the public eye; now it&#x27;s paparazzi bait like some Prince&#x27;s kid in England
breakyerselfover 9 years ago
Well I hope he learned something from the boondoggle his grant to Newark schools turned out to be.
ForFreedomover 9 years ago
Kayne and Kim named their son, North Mark and Priscilla named his daughter MAX.
msoadover 9 years ago
This is really cool. I kind of missed notes in Facebook. How do you create one?
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dimdimdimover 9 years ago
As I said in previous post --- if I were writing a letter to my son, it would be a private affair and not posting it worldwide on FB.<p>Also, there is a huge difference between pledging to donate during our lifetime and &quot;donating&quot;. Anyone can make that pledge and then decide a comfortable schedule.
salgernonover 9 years ago
In the end, the only thing anyone has to give is their time.<p>How many billions of hours are spent daily on Facebook? His fortune is won on the backs of those poor fools.<p>It ain&#x27;t gonna happen, but shutting down Facebook now would be a greater philanthropic act. (Yea and obviously OtherFacebook would come online.)
jordacheover 9 years ago
so you equate to internet monolopy as impactful as curing diseases?? So the dude is doing something else you find objectionable, but it doesn&#x27;t come close to good stuff he is trying to accomplish.
o0-0oover 9 years ago
This would have been a lot more genuine if he had just wrote the letter - tucked it away - and then let his actions do the talking.<p>When a choice is between doing the right thing loudly, and doing the right thing quietly, the amount of noise you make is the inverse of the size of your dick.<p>~_^
charlie_villover 9 years ago
Thank you Mark.
saccrantover 9 years ago
Time to short Facebook stock.<p>Given stock is the best way to motivate executives, when the guy on top is giving all of it away you know where the stock price is going.
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meltedover 9 years ago
I like Zuck. He seems to have picked the right role model to follow (Bill Gates). I just hope he cashes out before a credible competitor takes over.
frame_perfectover 9 years ago
Actions speak louder than words.
anon4this1over 9 years ago
I&#x27;m dismayed by the lack of focus on the environment here. Humans as a species are doing just fine. Health gains just marginally improve that. We need to focus on finding balance with nature that doesn&#x27;t involve mass extinctions and subjugation.
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orionblastarover 9 years ago
It is a lot of promises that are hard to keep.<p>They think they can just throw money at a problem and it will eventually go away given enough time.<p>They think people in communities will give up their bigotry against certain groups without a fight. They think everyone in the future will adopt the same worldview that they have. They think that they can solve poverty by giving everyone an Internet connection on the planet and most people who are poor are illiterate and can&#x27;t read and write.<p>Like I said a lot of promises.<p>Some problems can&#x27;t be solved with money, it takes innovation, it takes a new way of thinking, it takes doing things in a way nobody thought of yet.<p>Students who are poor and have family problems have emotional and psychological problems that hinder their learning. No matter how much money you spend on their school, as Gates has learned, their test scores don&#x27;t go up. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;answer-sheet&#x2F;wp&#x2F;2014&#x2F;06&#x2F;09&#x2F;how-much-bill-gatess-disappointing-small-schools-effort-really-cost&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;answer-sheet&#x2F;wp&#x2F;2014&#x2F;06&#x2F;...</a><p>This effort by the Gates Foundation proves that building better schools does not give the students a better education.<p>You see they made the mistake of throwing money at a problem in order to solve it. Five years later and a disappointment in what they had created.<p>Parents of the students get by with low paying jobs, because there is a wealth inequality in our nation. It leads to poverty, family issues, emotional and psychological problems none of which building new schools could address. All of which factor into having a hard time learning and getting better test scores.<p>Why is there a wealth inequality and people have to settle for low paying jobs?<p>Technology has automated most of the good paying jobs so they can be done with computers for free. Microsoft and Facebook for example earn money from technology that does work for others for free and earns money. Websites can operate 24&#x2F;7 and replace people who take phone calls or work at a desk to fill out forms.<p>Also we used to have factory jobs until we shipped those jobs to China because the labor cost less over there.<p>Getting a good education is only possible if you have a good enough credit rating to get a student loan, if your family is poor and struggles and misses paying bills, you will have a bad credit rating and not be able to get a student loan for college. Not getting good enough grades will lead to a lack of scholarships and other things.<p>People who can&#x27;t get a college education face a life of hardship working low paying jobs just to get by. Not everyone can become a computer programmer after being a dropout, and then join a startup. Some have to work retail jobs in the service industry and 2 or 3 of those jobs. Not having time to raise their children properly. Not able to help with homework because they work overtime to get enough money to pay the bills.<p>These factors have not been addressed in the future plans for fixing our education system.<p>Sure you can learn a lot on the Internet and even use it to earn money, but most people just use it for entertainment value and communication. So there are distractions to learning on the Internet. But what happens when the freelance market suddenly gets 3 billion more lower wage contractors in it all competing for the limited amount of contracts?<p>I wish I knew how to solve these problems, but I learned from experience that you can&#x27;t just throw money at them and solve them.<p>You need the government to help out with some sort of basic income program to lift people out of poverty as good paying jobs are scarce because of automation or AI advances. I expect that to get worse in the future.<p>You need better mental health clinics to address the emotional and psychological problems associated with poverty for the students to be able to learn better. You need to find money for tutors to help them with homework when their parents cannot. You need to teach poor students stress management and test anxiety management so that they can o better in tests and learn better study habits and score higher.<p>I&#x27;ve found at least with my son, that the Internet is a distraction for him. Time he could have spent studying for tests, he instead watches Youtube videos and plays video games. I&#x27;ve tried to help him as best as I can, but now he is failing chemistry as a junior in high school but passing his other classes because they are not as hard.<p>We are one of those poor families because I ended up on disability in 2003 and don&#x27;t earn as much as I used to as a programmer. There is only so much I can help my son, he makes decisions for himself, but I cannot force him to study more or do better on his tests. I feel as if I didn&#x27;t go on disability we&#x27;d be better off and I&#x27;d be able to hire a chemistry tutor for him to get his grades up. I forgot as I took chemistry in 1985, and it was so long ago. It is harder to raise a child than you think, esp if you are on a limited income. The school he goes to is a good one with good teachers and modern equipment and they use iPads for ebooks and learning, but it is not enough and still students struggle with their classes.<p>No matter what you do there will still be problems as no system is perfect, and students will still get low mtest grades no matter how good a personalized system you develop. The Dewey System was developed for personalized learning and it failed. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;John_Dewey" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;John_Dewey</a><p>Most of what they are trying to do has already been tried and failed. It is like trying to go against human nature and change the way human beings behave so they can learn better. But human beings cannot be reprogrammed like robots, and almost all of these theories go with the case that human beings can be reprogrammed like robots to create a better community for better learning.<p>It is like trying to solve a social problem using technology thinking, you need to think in terms of society and the way people work, which is not the same way technology works. You need to lead social reforms in communities in a way that makes sense to everybody and not just people on a certain political spectrum that leaves out all others. You will face a resistance to change, as many won&#x27;t want to change. People will come up with conspiracy theories over the changes, etc.<p>It is a good start to build a different system of education and try to make new communities for education for everyone, but money alone won&#x27;t solve it, you need the cooperation of everyone in the community to change the way their human nature works and give up on the old ways of doing things. Some won&#x27;t want to give up on the old ways.
supergirlover 9 years ago
Every rich guy thinks he knows what&#x27;s good for the world. And why announce this together with the birth? Should the world celebrate this miraculous event that also led to our salvation?
jpeg_heroover 9 years ago
Patrick Bateman -- World problems speech<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;dZlK_ThjMk4" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;dZlK_ThjMk4</a>
throwaway999888over 9 years ago
&gt; Today your mother and I are committing to spend our lives doing our small part to help solve these challenges. I will continue to serve as Facebook&#x27;s CEO for many, many years to come, but these issues are too important to wait until you or we are older to begin this work. By starting at a young age, we hope to see compounding benefits throughout our lives.<p>In other words, <i>I&#x27;m getting in on this philanthropy thing at a much younger age than Bill Gates</i>.
FussyZeusover 9 years ago
When things like this pop up, as well intention-ed as they may be, I just think to myself, if this were just a regular guy and not famous, would anyone give a shit?
hvisover 9 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;chanzuckerberginitiative&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.facebook.com&#x2F;chanzuckerberginitiative&#x2F;</a><p>&quot;Please log in to continue.&quot;<p>Seriously? One might think they would prioritize raising awareness over increasing Facebook userbase.
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wityakover 9 years ago
Expensive shot at Bezos and his distate of charity. Well played, Zuck.
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gesmanover 9 years ago
Adorable baby girl, welcome to the world.<p>PS: <i>stress</i> and toxicity quite often are the real causes whereby the few diseases Mark mentioned is a consequence.
bababouy33over 9 years ago
Wow, that&#x27;s a lot of pro-facebook comments for a &quot;Hacker news&quot; site. Shouldn&#x27;t you people be browsing reddit or better yet, facebook?