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Does exercise slow the aging process?

107 pointsby tmbsundarover 9 years ago

17 comments

jacquesmover 9 years ago
I don&#x27;t know if it will actually slow down aging (which is a very wide concept). But I do have a &#x27;proof of 1&#x27; that cycling a lot will wear out your knees and hips prematurely.<p>Bodies are like machines, if you use them a lot they will wear out because of over-use. If you use them very little they will atrophy.<p>The balance is probably somewhere in the middle, yes, exercise but don&#x27;t overdo it.
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jasodeover 9 years ago
And to add to the confusion, you have another study considering the opposite conclusion. The study explored the effects of exercise increasing free radicals and advanced aging.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pubmed&#x2F;9177582" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&#x2F;pubmed&#x2F;9177582</a>
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calebmover 9 years ago
My wife and I are reading this book called &quot;Move Your DNA&quot; (by Katy Bowman). She has an interesting thesis: modern exercise is &quot;junk movement&quot; (like &quot;junk&quot; food). The idea is that humans were meant to move more throughout the day, and that trying to cram all of our needed movement into a small 45-minute block is similar to how junk food crams tons of calories into a small bit of food.<p>We&#x27;re not finished with it yet, but initially, I find it interesting.
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KerrickStaleyover 9 years ago
This is an observational study and proves correlation, not causation. People whose bodies age slowly for whatever reason are more likely to be athletic, especially in the 40-65 age range they called out.
repsilatover 9 years ago
&gt; <i>this study is purely associational, so cannot show whether exercise actually causes changes in telomere length, only that people who exercise have longer telomeres.</i><p>&gt; ...<p>&gt; <i>So the message seems clear, he says. “Exercise is good” for your cells, and “more exercise in greater variety” is likely to be even better.</i><p>Fascinating -- the first quoted sentence is logically equivalent to saying, &quot;If you have short telomeres you&#x27;re statistically unlikely to exercise much.&quot;<p>The conclusion that exercise leads to shorter telomeres is empowering and optimistic, so it&#x27;s no surprised the American scientists and press ran with it. The conclusion that people who exercise regularly are genetically predisposed to it is <i>disempowering</i>, though, and it wasn&#x27;t mentioned at all. (It is consistent with jasode&#x27;s sibling comment that exercise can speed up the ageing process, though.)<p>I&#x27;d also be interested in the inverse correlation -- are sedentary lifestyles associated with shorter telomeres? What proportion of people in the study actually did exercise, and what proportion had shorter telomeres? Essentially, &quot;show me the numbers in all of the boxes and let me draw my own conclusions.&quot;
5555624over 9 years ago
Previous comments: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10468025" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=10468025</a>
isolateover 9 years ago
Personally, I think the question of the effect exercise has on my lifespan is irrelevant.<p>A lot of people talk about exercise being valuable because it makes you healthy. I like all the wonderful benefits of being healthy and in good shape, yes, but I also genuinely like exercise. There is basically nothing as incredible as the right kind of physical exertion for me.<p>If exercise is a vice, who cares? It&#x27;s worth it.
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csvanover 9 years ago
&quot;Sitting is the new smoking&quot;
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reasonattlmover 9 years ago
The most interesting result from recent research into exercise is this:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.alphagalileo.org&#x2F;ViewItem.aspx?ItemId=159410&amp;CultureCode=en" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.alphagalileo.org&#x2F;ViewItem.aspx?ItemId=159410&amp;Cult...</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;dx.doi.org&#x2F;10.1038&#x2F;srep18259" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;dx.doi.org&#x2F;10.1038&#x2F;srep18259</a><p>An open access paper on exercise in identical and non-identical twin pairs was recently published, the data suggesting that long-term differences in physical activity between identical twins don&#x27;t result in any significant difference in longevity, even though other differences in health outcomes are observed. We might draw parallels between this and similar results observed in a mouse study from a few years back, in which the exercising mice had better health but no increase in maximum life span. The researchers here theorize that the well-known epidemiological association between exercise and increased life expectancy is perhaps as much a matter of genetics as of choice.<p>For any observed statistical relationship in humans there are always questions of causation. This is especially true in the web of associations related to aging and mortality in population data, in which life expectancy, wealth, social status, intelligence, education, exercise, diet, and culture all have ties to one another. That we pay great attention to these relationships is a function of having no good way to treat aging, I&#x27;ve long thought: we care about trivial differences in life expectancy of a few years here and a few years there because this is all that is in our power to change right now, and that will continue until the development of rejuvenation therapies. Life expectancy and exercise are linked robustly in many data sets, and even more so now that accelerometers are so cheap and ubiquitous that even large studies can use them to obtain actual rather than self-reported data on physical activity. There are studies to demonstrate longer life expectancy in athletes, longer life expectancy in those who exercise modestly versus those who are sedentary, and so forth. What are these studies measuring, however? For example, what if people who are more robust and would live longer regardless of exercise tend to exercise more? Or perhaps exercise levels are a good proxy for lower levels of visceral fat tissue and consequent chronic inflammation - themselves linked to greater risk of age-related disease and mortality.<p>The results of this study definitely muddy the waters in the search for causation and mechanism in exercise and mortality reduction, providing evidence to support a state of considerable complexity in the relationship between exercise, genetics, and outcomes in health. Nothing in biology is ever as simple as we&#x27;d like it to be, so this should perhaps be expected. Regardless he data presented below should be added to the many past studies on exercise and mortality, and its weight balanced accordingly - never take any single set of data and interpretations as gospel in science. This doesn&#x27;t change the consensus, which is that you should exercise, and that you are expected to obtain benefits by doing so. It does add subtlety to the picture, however.
dschiptsovover 9 years ago
Circulation. The difference is like between a rainforest and semi-desert. Efficient regeneration of tissues.<p>Of course other factors matter. Air quality, variety of foods, water sources, sleep patterns, noise, stress, ecology in general.<p>There is nothing new about these notions - actively working peasants in unspoiled remote areas are champions of longevity.
l1feh4ckover 9 years ago
Whether that study is true or not &#x27;do exercises&#x27; at least you can have a healthy and fit body in your available life span.
jasonmp85over 9 years ago
I think the operative question is does it slow down aging at a rate faster than the time you spend exercising?
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furfishover 9 years ago
According to the law of headlines the answer is &quot;no&quot;.
nikolayover 9 years ago
Aerobic exercise actually speeds it up due to increased oxidation in the system, but, in general, any BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate) increase also speeds up your demise, but this is in the ideal situation where we all die naturally, not from chronic disease, cancer, etc. Why? Because our cells can&#x27;t divide indefinitely (Hayflick limit [0]). Any activity that increases growth factors also can speed up cancerous growth. So, don&#x27;t run, don&#x27;t exercise - just walk, do gardening work, and other normal human activities.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Hayflick_limit" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Hayflick_limit</a>
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kingsley3over 9 years ago
Hi,<p>I maintain the world&#x27;s biggest spread sheet of life span experiments.<p>I believe slowing aging can increase life span.<p>It turns out that the effect of exercise on all-cause mortality is well studied.<p>My big spread sheet summarizes about 80 experiments.<p>They show that exercise usually lets us live longer.<p>A histogram of their results is at<p><pre><code> http:&#x2F;&#x2F;morse.kiwi.nz&#x2F;kingsley&#x2F;lib&#x2F;exe&#x2F;fetch.php?cache=&amp;media=science:histogram_of_exercise_vs_all_cause_mortality.png </code></pre> I think the trick is to not OVER train.<p>I&#x27;m told that over-training is worse than no training, and just working up a light sweat is good.<p>More findings from data mining my big spread sheet of life span experiments are at<p><pre><code> http:&#x2F;&#x2F;morse.kiwi.nz&#x2F;kingsley&#x2F;doku.php?id=science:kingsleys_big_spread_sheet_of_life_span_experiments</code></pre>
kingsley3over 9 years ago
Hi,<p>I maintain the world&#x27;s biggest spread sheet of life span experiments.<p>I believe slowing aging can increase life span.<p>It turns out that the effect of exercise on all-cause mortality is well studied.<p>My big spread sheet summarizes about 80 exercise experiments.<p>They show that exercise usually lets us live longer.<p>A histogram of their results is at<p><pre><code> http:&#x2F;&#x2F;morse.kiwi.nz&#x2F;kingsley&#x2F;lib&#x2F;exe&#x2F;fetch.php?cache=&amp;media=science:histogram_of_exercise_vs_all_cause_mortality.png </code></pre> I think the trick is to not OVER train.<p>I&#x27;m told that over-training is worse than no training, and just working up a light sweat is good.<p>More findings from data mining my big spread sheet of life span experiments are at<p><pre><code> http:&#x2F;&#x2F;morse.kiwi.nz&#x2F;kingsley&#x2F;doku.php?id=science:kingsleys_big_spread_sheet_of_life_span_experiments </code></pre> Thanks, Kingsley
ameliusover 9 years ago
Perhaps cardio training. But bodybuilding will probably not slow down aging; I suppose it wears one down physically, and also imposes a huge load on the central nervous system. It would be nice to have a scientific study on this, to see to what extent this is true.