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Google, HP, Oracle Join RISC-V – Open-source processor core gains traction

260 pointsby mparramonover 9 years ago

11 comments

zhemaoover 9 years ago
Hi, I&#x27;m a Ph.D. student at UC Berkeley on the RISC-V team. Happy to answer any questions about the RISC-V ISA or Rocket, our open-source reference implementation.<p>Since there&#x27;s always confusion about it, I&#x27;ll start off by clarifying the difference between the two. RISC-V is an open-source ISA standard. Rocket is an implementation of this ISA which also happens to be open source. We do not intend for the ISA to be tied to a single reference implementation. The intention for RISC-V is to enable many different implementations (whether open-source or proprietary). These different implementations can all run an open-source software ecosystem, which currently consists of a GNU toolchain, LLVM, and Linux kernel port.
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asbover 9 years ago
There&#x27;s been a fair bit of discussion about this over on reddit:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;linux&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3z9t7k&#x2F;open_source_processor_core_gains_traction_google&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;linux&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3z9t7k&#x2F;open_source_p...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;opensource&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3z5ue8&#x2F;open_source_processor_core_gains_traction_google&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;opensource&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3z5ue8&#x2F;open_sou...</a><p>I&#x27;m a cofounder of lowRISC, a not-for-profit working to produce a fully open source SoC implementing the RISC-V ISA, in volume silicon. If you have questions then fire away.
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0xcde4c3dbover 9 years ago
Microsemi (the names &quot;Actel&quot; and &quot;ProASIC&quot; might be better-known) and Lattice are also mentioned as sponsors in the article itself. These are FPGA vendors, which suggests that they might be interested in shipping RISC-V soft cores in their design tools or possibly even shipping chips with RISC-V hard cores (similar to the Xilinx Zynq and Altera SoC families).<p>Notably, Lattice manufactures the only FPGA for which a full open source design flow currently exists (albeit unsupported by Lattice themselves) [1], and has its own set of open source soft processor cores [2] [3].<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.clifford.at&#x2F;icestorm&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.clifford.at&#x2F;icestorm&#x2F;</a><p>[2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.latticesemi.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;Products&#x2F;DesignSoftwareAndIP&#x2F;IntellectualProperty&#x2F;IPCore&#x2F;IPCores02&#x2F;LatticeMico32.aspx" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.latticesemi.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;Products&#x2F;DesignSoftwareAndIP&#x2F;I...</a><p>[3] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.latticesemi.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;Products&#x2F;DesignSoftwareAndIP&#x2F;IntellectualProperty&#x2F;IPCore&#x2F;IPCores02&#x2F;Mico8.aspx" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.latticesemi.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;Products&#x2F;DesignSoftwareAndIP&#x2F;I...</a>
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mwcampbellover 9 years ago
I wonder what Google, HP, and Oracle are planning to do with RISC-V. Will RISC-V-based chips be able to compete with Intel in the server market?<p>Incidentally, I think the first consumer devices to adopt RISC-V will be home wireless routers, because the stock firmwares for those are closed, so they&#x27;ll just need to be recompiled with a new toolchain. And those devices don&#x27;t need a GPU.
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bitwizeover 9 years ago
I wonder what the copyright license terms on Oracle&#x27;s proprietary ISA extensions will be...
thebeardisredover 9 years ago
Obligatory: ¨RISC architecture is going to change everything¨ - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arikia.files.wordpress.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;02&#x2F;test2.gif?w=625" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arikia.files.wordpress.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;02&#x2F;test2.gif?w=625</a>
fmarchover 9 years ago
Has any one created a verification infrastructure with any of RISC-V implementations? The git repository does have a set of tests and benchmarks but could not find any thing more than that.
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tbirdzover 9 years ago
How does RISC-V compare with the J2 core based on the SuperH architecture by the Open Processor Foundation[1]?<p>1: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;0pf.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;0pf.org&#x2F;</a>
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wstrangeover 9 years ago
Can someone explain the advantage of RISC-V vs. other open source architectures (e.g. OpenSPARC?).<p>Are there legal issues that make it more favourable?
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chei0aiVover 9 years ago
I wonder if HP are looking at RISC-V&#x2F;lowRISC for their &quot;The Machine&quot; project.
Const-meover 9 years ago
I wonder how are they going to compete with Intel?<p>I don’t see how they’re going to match raw performance against those 1tflops+ 20-cores xeons. I don’t see how they’re going to match performance&#x2F;watt against 7w quad-core C2338. I don’t see how they’re going to match price against $20 x5-Z8300. If none of the above, then why should Google&#x2F;HP&#x2F;Oracle&#x2F;anyone else buy that?
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