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OX (OpenPGP for XMPP): A New OpenPGP XEP

58 pointsby Flowdalicover 9 years ago

5 comments

legulereover 9 years ago
I think it&#x27;s too late for it and this wouldn&#x27;t solve that many problems:<p>- public xmpp servers are shutting down one after the other<p>- xmpp ties your identity to the server you register with, when there&#x27;s technology to tie your identity to a cryptographic hash (you can use DHT to find people)<p>- servers are not optional in xmpp, when in reality most of the time when you message people they&#x27;re also online, so peer2peer would be fine there (especially for server outages like the server I used frequently had)<p>- One usecase where you need servers is to save power on mobile devices. XMPP doesn&#x27;t support push notification<p>- end-to-end encryption is an total afterthought in xmpp<p>- basic things like sending pictures, voice or videochat never work<p>- xmpp is an laughably over complex standard created by a committee<p>- pgp is totally unusable for normal users
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mkjover 9 years ago
Why would someone use this rather than OTR? (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.xmpp.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;OTR" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.xmpp.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;OTR</a>)
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snorgeover 9 years ago
Does anyone have experience with Matrix? [0] I haven&#x27;t tried it yet but the site looks interesting.<p>0: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;matrix.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;matrix.org&#x2F;</a>
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daenneyover 9 years ago
Though I understand why this is done and I&#x27;m glad there&#x27;s a XEP now that&#x27;s not broken like the previous one I&#x27;m not sure OpenPGP is viable.<p>It might work for tech savvy users but frankly I don&#x27;t think most people have it in them to correctly and securely manage the lifecycle (creation, access, storage, usage) of a key.
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erikbover 9 years ago
Wasn&#x27;t XMPP already encryptet? A friend always tried to convince me to switch from IRC to XMPP because XMPP can be encrypted. Is that incorrect?
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