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How I Built a Side Project

255 pointsby lillukkaover 9 years ago

13 comments

onion2kover 9 years ago
<i>I sent a short list of questions to 1222 recipients.</i><p>Great!<p><i>The open rate of the email was 45,8%</i><p>That&#x27;s excellent.<p><i>...and 27 people replied.</i><p>Oh. Oh dear.<p><i>~ 96% of respondents told that they would - or already have - recommended the tool for a friend or colleague.</i><p>96% of the people who are enthusiastic enough about the service to respond to an email would recommend the service, but the 97.8% of people didn&#x27;t respond is <i>by far</i> the more important number. If the people who&#x27;d tried the app were a random sample of the population then 2.2% might be enough to suggest there&#x27;s a valid premium business model there, but the people who tried the service weren&#x27;t randomly selected - they were a self-selected group of people who are interested enough in user testing to sign up for the service. If you can&#x27;t get a significant response from a group who are (alledgedly) interested in your type of product then you clearly have a <i>big</i> messaging problem.
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brandon272over 9 years ago
I choked at seeing the $250&#x2F;mo. Heroku cost for a checklist app! Wow. You can set up a Linode VM or DigitalOcean droplet for $5 or $10 a month, run a few commands to get software installed and get it reasonably hardened against intrusion. Hardly takes any time at all.
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overcastover 9 years ago
I don&#x27;t really understand the costs involved here. You can get a pretty powerful DigitalOcean droplet for $24 a month, which I personally run multiple side projects on with no issues. This could have stayed up indefinitely to tinker with, while you work on other stuff!
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level09over 9 years ago
I like this kind of posts, a side project helps creating side projects. it was a matter of time until I figured out that to make money you can simply teach people how to make money. who wouldn&#x27;t want to learn that :)
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sumstedover 9 years ago
This goes along with a good site I saw mentioned in comments yesterday, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goodui.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goodui.org&#x2F;</a>. If your site was still up, I&#x27;d sign up. You might even go cheaper with something like a shared hosting solution, like webfaction. it&#x27;s cheap, it&#x27;s easy to setup stacks, you&#x27;d have plenty of space, and you don&#x27;t have to manage your server.
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dcole2929over 9 years ago
It sucks that you had to kill your project because of costs but honestly I don&#x27;t blame you for going the Heroku route. It does it all for you with some &quot;mininmal&quot; configuration. I like linux and have done enough maintenance on various sites so I generally don&#x27;t feel lost but I&#x27;d kill to have someone walk me through the process of setting up a production ready web app just once.
jassa_over 9 years ago
Dude! $250 doesn&#x27;t make any sense. I&#x27;ve been running a MUCH more complex side project in Heroku with ~80k visitors per week for way, way below that, closer to what you would pay with DigitalOcean or the like. For a checklist app and your traffic you shouldn&#x27;t need the dynos or the database upgrade.
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AKiferover 9 years ago
Aside from the free nature of the app, I think what&#x27;s missing was a consistent growth strategy. In your opinion 1&#x2F; how much would be a fair price for such a service 2&#x2F; which&#x2F;who sales&#x2F;marketing saas&#x2F;specialists would have helped it attract customers 3&#x2F; what would be the next features appealing enought to convice users to try it, use it more frequently, and invite other, should this app continued to live
bootloadover 9 years ago
<i>&quot;To learn more about my users, I sent a short list of questions to 1222 recipients.&quot;</i><p>brilliant read, one thing I&#x27;d modify is ask some&#x2F;all these questions on signup or login. Tweak enough questions and techniques to ask [0] so as not to discourage. This way you can gain more info as as people use&#x2F;try&#x2F;login.<p>[0] Must be numerous ways to gain info building it into actions of tool.
useriumover 9 years ago
Author here, happy to get feedback!
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seanwilsonover 9 years ago
For all the people saying Heroku is too expensive: a basic single server, 10M row database and SSL is around $50 a month on Heroku: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.heroku.com&#x2F;pricing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.heroku.com&#x2F;pricing</a><p>Personally, for the reduction in admin tasks (which I think people greatly underestimate), improved deploys and rollbacks, and improved uptime about $50 a month is completely worth it compared to a standard server.<p>I don&#x27;t know why the monthly bill in the article is $250 though.
juandazapataover 9 years ago
Iteration 3: Die
10dpdover 9 years ago
Here&#x27;s another checklist style app, only built on PHP AppEngine. So far there hasn&#x27;t been enough traffic though to make a reasonable estimate of cost.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fallinloveapp.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fallinloveapp.com</a>