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Farewell, Marvin Minsky

182 pointsby lispythonover 9 years ago

7 comments

ericjangover 9 years ago
I wasn&#x27;t aware that Danny Hillis was a student of Minsky&#x27;s and that the Connection Machine mainframe series was created with brain simulation in mind. That&#x27;s really cool.<p>When thinking about implementing the network topology for a large-scale brain simulation, the network topology should reflect the 3D spatial local-ness of the real brain (to avoid redundant N x N communication between units). One seems to either arrive at a fat-tree CM5 architecture or a 3D lattice of asynchronous processors (but this is not very general-purpose).<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=blvC0DA96dI" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=blvC0DA96dI</a>
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rwebaover 9 years ago
I think there is a cultural disconnect to some of the complaints about Wolfram&#x27;s post.<p>Wolfram and Minsky both have backgrounds in academia. In academia &quot;self-promotion&quot; is actually not generally frowned upon.<p>People really do expect you to bring up your own work whenever possible and connect it whatever issue is at hand. This is not considered rude or offensive or &quot;bragging&quot;, anymore than if someone told you they&#x27;re from New York City and you mentioned that you&#x27;d lived in Brooklyn for seven years.<p>It&#x27;s a way for people to find common ground and show how much they share intellectually.<p>Thus, I&#x27;m pretty sure Minsky wouldn&#x27;t be offended.<p>And yes, for the record I have found Wolfram to be somewhat self-aggrandizing in the past, but I just don&#x27;t think this is an example of that, he&#x27;s simply reminiscing over his history with Minsky and describing some connections between their work.
vixen99over 9 years ago
In an entertaining novel which explains not a few ideas from the &#x27;Society of Mind&#x27;, Minsky (coauthor Harry Harrison) introduces the idea of &quot;microrobots that could chase mealybugs away&quot;. It&#x27;s called &#x27;The Turing Option&#x27; - lots of fun.
poseidover 9 years ago
really nice thoughts, esp. about teaching and discoveries &quot;marvinminsky said [...] that the best way to teach programming was to start by showing people good code&quot;
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dangover 9 years ago
Hey everyone: What we can call Wolfram Derangement Syndrome—the vast indignation provoked in internet commenters by his vast self-reference—is off topic. Nothing so predictable can be interesting, and predictable rage reflexes are toxic.<p>The first few times this came up, years ago, it was worth noting. I laughed at the same parodies everyone else did. But by now, Wolfram&#x27;s odd tic has long been commoditized, and it&#x27;s our problem if we choose to dwell on it.<p>Wolfram has other things to say as well, and many of them—recently about Ada Lovelace, George Boole, and now Minsky—are interesting. Those are the things HN should be discussing.<p>It&#x27;s a test for this community: can we stay focused on what&#x27;s interesting? Or must we lose our shit every time the catnip is wiggled?<p>There are gems in this article that would stimulate a good HN discussion under normal circumstances. Let us put on our anti-troll suits and give that a try.
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gypsyharlotover 9 years ago
Wolfram is self-promoting even in goodbyes to the departed now? Yikes, I didn&#x27;t think it could get any worse...
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daveguyover 9 years ago
30 links. 27 links to Wolfram and his products. 2 links to Minsky&#x27;s work. 1 link to a mathematics geneology site (who was who&#x27;s grad student). The math geneology site (not Wolfram) is pretty cool. Otherwise this is a particularly distasteful way to put out self-aggrandizing plugs.<p>Edit: that math geneology site that shows all the students of Minsky (and their students, etc) -- <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu&#x2F;id.php?id=6869" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu&#x2F;id.php?id=6869</a><p>Edit2:<p>Book by Minsky Society of the Mind -- <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;aurellem.org&#x2F;society-of-mind&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;aurellem.org&#x2F;society-of-mind&#x2F;</a><p>Paper by Minsky on finite automata --<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;books.google.com&#x2F;books?id=oL57iECEeEwC&amp;pg=PA117&amp;lpg=PA117&amp;dq=minsky+&quot;%20Some+Universal+Elements+for+Finite+Automata%20&quot;&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=xvG-slRVgZ&amp;sig=ybbdy4Rq2RCKrFWjNbHlOrfkUvY&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=0ahUKEwiensHGksfKAhWLn4MKHQE0CokQ6AEISTAJ%20#v=onepage&amp;q=minsky%20%20%20%22%20Some%20%20%20Universal%20%20%20Elements%20%20%20for%20%20%20Finite%20%20%20Automata%20%22&amp;f=false" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;books.google.com&#x2F;books?id=oL57iECEeEwC&amp;pg=PA117&amp;lpg=...</a>
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