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Ask HN: No HTTPS – Why do you trust an app?

10 pointsby newsignupover 9 years ago
There is no way of knowing whether an app uses https or not. How do you trust an app, then?

5 comments

patmccover 9 years ago
You have to trust the organization, same as always. If your bank&#x2F;credit union doesn&#x27;t use https in their app, they probably don&#x27;t have a secure infrastructure period.<p>If the organization you&#x27;re dealing with is incompetent, it doesn&#x27;t matter if you communicate with https, carrier pigeon, or face-to-face. They&#x27;ll still leave things open at some point and you&#x27;ll get screwed.<p>And, as heinrichf points out, you can MITM and name-and-shame individual apps if you&#x27;re technical.
tedmistonover 9 years ago
A friend wrote a really nice blog post about this in 2013. It&#x27;s always felt like the white elephant in the room of iOS apps.<p>&quot;WebViews Are Not To Be Trusted&quot; <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20140213214723&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;matthodges.com&#x2F;2013&#x2F;09&#x2F;webviews-are-not-to-be-trusted&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20140213214723&#x2F;http:&#x2F;&#x2F;matthodges...</a>
heinrichfover 9 years ago
You can redirect the traffic of your device through a proxy and sniff it (e.g. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mitmproxy.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;mitmproxy.org&#x2F;</a>) to determine if an app uses https or not, and furthermore if it performs certificate pinning.
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MarkMcover 9 years ago
A similar problem is that many apps ask me to log in with my Facebook password. With a browser I can see that my password is being sent directly to Facebook but with an app, who knows?
kleer001over 9 years ago
I have tiers of trust based on levels of perceived risk, and that&#x27;s multiplied with the frequency of use.