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Get off of GitHub

37 pointsby pljnsover 9 years ago

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chriswarboover 9 years ago
I find GitHub rather ironic. Git was created in the first place to pick up the pieces after the BitKeeper debacle [1]<p>BitKeeper is&#x2F;was a proprietary VCS platform, which enticed in developers by providing a free (gratis) version for FOSS projects. Sound familiar? When the &quot;no reverse-engineering&quot; terms were inevitably broken, access was revoked and many Linux kernel developers who&#x27;d come to rely on BitKeeper found themselves out of luck.<p>Torvalds et al wrote Git to replace the functionality of BitKeeper. Not only did this give those devs who&#x27;d come to rely on DVCS something to use (IIRC, Torvalds himself sent&#x2F;received patches via email; a workflow which is well supported in Git), but it would ensure that no one entity could have too much control over Linux (and other FOSS) development.<p>Then GitHub came along, a proprietary VCS platform which enticed in developers by providing a free (gratis) version for FOSS projects, and quickly overtook previous alternatives like Gitorious, and became a single entity with too much control over FOSS development.<p>Whilst I admire GitLab&#x27;s work, since Gitorious went away I&#x27;m reluctant to advocate such a single point of control&#x2F;failure again. I now host my git repos on my own server[2], with a static HTML interface generated by git2html[3] (with a few tweaks [4]). Patches are welcome by email.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;BitKeeper" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;BitKeeper</a> [2] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;chriswarbo.net&#x2F;git" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;chriswarbo.net&#x2F;git</a> [3] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hssl.cs.jhu.edu&#x2F;~neal&#x2F;git2html&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;hssl.cs.jhu.edu&#x2F;~neal&#x2F;git2html&#x2F;</a> [4] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;chriswarbo.net&#x2F;git&#x2F;git2html&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;chriswarbo.net&#x2F;git&#x2F;git2html&#x2F;</a>
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scrollawayover 9 years ago
Down. Mirror: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;gArqw" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;gArqw</a><p>Edit: On topic: I&#x27;ve been meaning to move to Gitlab but Github still has a strong pull on me. I have a really good profile there which is useful when I look for work, and the barrier of entry to contributing to other open source projects is immeasurably great. Github has actually made open source <i>fun</i>.<p>The recent developments are extremely worrisome though. I was hoping we&#x27;d get some more years from Github before they turn awful... thankfully, the tie-in only goes as far as the profile itself, there are excellent backup[1] and conversion tools which have been recently linked on HN - and of course, there&#x27;s Gitlab.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;joeyh&#x2F;github-backup" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;joeyh&#x2F;github-backup</a>
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aembletonover 9 years ago
Maybe the developers of FOSS just want to use the best tool for the job. Maybe they are opening up their work because they want others to be able to contribute to it and Github happens to be the most effective way of soliciting contributions.
pc86over 9 years ago
&gt; <i>... when open source projects opt to use Slack as their chat platform instead of IRC; it&#x27;s [sic] sends the signal that FOSS is good enough for us but not good enough for them.</i><p>It couldn&#x27;t possibly be because Slack is better than IRC?<p>I mean, come on. <i>Sometimes</i> there is a better closed-source alternative. I don&#x27;t know why FOSS attracts these people that think all closed-source software is literally the devil or whatever, but if you&#x27;re not using the best tool for the job you don&#x27;t have the best interests of the project at heart. For most use cases, Slack is objectively better than IRC. For a minority, IRC is better.<p>The dogma from the FOSS community is a large part of why many people are not involved in it at all.
headgasketover 9 years ago
Gitlab is quite impressive. I&#x27;ve dropped bitbucket for it. I still love github, I find its best use case for me is a great repository of code samples(I&#x27;ve also contributed to several projects ); the social aspect is valuable (to me) because generally the most starred projects are of the highest quality, it&#x27;s a valuable vetting process.<p>The curse of the growth hacking is this: there&#x27;s a fixed number of top developers and hackers on this planet. Once you&#x27;ve crossed that number, the next new user&#x27;s input decreases the signal to noise. This happens everywhere. (not pointing any fingers to not get down votes... :-)<p>cheers!
dudulover 9 years ago
&quot;[VCs are] not looking for a profitable business; instead, they’re looking for growth that provides the opportunity for a 100x exit. &quot;<p>I don&#x27;t want to make a little bit of money every day, I want to make a fucking ton of money all at once ( <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;BzAdXyPYKQo?t=57" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;BzAdXyPYKQo?t=57</a> )
verusfossaover 9 years ago
I run a gitolite[0] instance on my server. It&#x27;s great so long as you have another way to deal with issues and love the terminal. Access control is a breeze.<p>I feel like Gitlab is heavy. Gogs is neat, but incomplete. If you don&#x27;t need&#x2F;want bloat, gitolite works well.<p>[0] gitolite.com
carsongrossover 9 years ago
I was surprised to see this tweet by a technical director at Github:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;_danilo&#x2F;status&#x2F;690601512813367297" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;_danilo&#x2F;status&#x2F;690601512813367297</a>
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drinchevover 9 years ago
Okay too much GitHub hate going on these days. It&#x27;s just impossible to have that unnoticed. I really hope there are no politics behind those articles ( or their publicity ).
eddierogerover 9 years ago
Site is down, no comments yet. Guess I&#x27;m staying with GitHub a little longer.