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Think big with a gig: Our experimental fiber network

269 pointsby ashishbharthiover 15 years ago

27 comments

swombatover 15 years ago
Time for the other so-called broadband providers to shake in their boots.<p>I like companies that have no respect for established business models. In this perspective, despite its size, I think it's fair to call Google a start-up.
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theblackboxover 15 years ago
Worth noting: We had something quite inspirational up in the Lakeland fells recently. One villiage (Alston Moor[1]) was so sick of constantly being set back by ISPs, that they organised a community action group to lay their own fibre optic cable during some planned roadworks. Everyone pitched in, cloudsourced infrastructure if you will, and with just enough people they look set to have 100Mb broadband before a lot of places.<p>The guys who got it off the ground set up www.cybermoor.org and are encouraging similar grass roots development for other remote areas. I like that.<p>[1:<a href="http://www.cybermoor.org/index.php?option=com_mtree&#38;task=viewlink&#38;link_id=874&#38;Itemid=10" rel="nofollow">http://www.cybermoor.org/index.php?option=com_mtree&#38;task...</a>]
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imgabeover 15 years ago
<i>Or downloading a high-definition, full-length feature film in less than five minutes.</i><p>Did you hear that? It sounded as if millions of hollywood executives suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced...
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pavsover 15 years ago
This will shake up the broadband industry the same way ebook readers are transforming the publishing industry. This is HUGE.<p>I am in NY and I am waiting for years for fios in my area. Hopefully this adoption will move faster than FIOS.
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timdorrover 15 years ago
This may be paranoia, but I'm actually worried about this much bandwidth being the hands of ordinary people. My reasoning: super-botnets. This has the potential to very easily create a several 100Gbit DDOS network, which is essentially unstoppable. I understand the need and potential for high speed networks, but I think gigabit might be taking it a bit too far. It's a "with great power comes great responsibility" sort of thing. But perhaps I'm just being overly paranoid.
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Shamiqover 15 years ago
Owning your net access, owning the DNS, routing through their backbone. These guys have all your bases covered.<p>How do you form an underground internet that bypasses the big players?
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sicularsover 15 years ago
This is more than just kinda great, this is definitively awesomely great. Words can not describe how crappy Time Warner is in NYC.<p>Bonus points for doing this in a recession when traditional companies are running for the hills and laying off people left and right. Google continues to innovate and crush competition in multiple industries. I have no doubt that if they want to become an ISP or even pretend to become one to force traditional ISP's to innovate then good for them and better for us.
jsz0over 15 years ago
I think Google would be better off partnering with existing service providers for this project. It's a hugely complex process to start from scratch. Getting the pole rights alone to build infrastructure is going to take them years. In some area's within the span of a mile you might pass poles owned by half a dozen different entities. Most of them owned by incumbent Internet service providers who will tell you the pole is already at capacity and if you want to put up your fiber they need to replace 50 poles to cover one new street of infrastructure build out. In many places they'll have to dig trenches for new construction. In cold areas that means you lose at least 5 months a year of actual work time or you spend a fortune digging into the frozen ground. They're going to need to hire a small army of contractors to build plant and splice fiber or make the investment in man power, bucket trucks, gear, etc to do it in house. They're going to need warehouses and office space all over the country. And of course they'll need customer &#38; technical support staff. I'd be shocked if Google makes any real progress on this outside of extremely limited deployments. The whole system is setup to make it <i>very</i> hard for any outside force to compete with incumbents.
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JunkDNAover 15 years ago
I'm not sure this will have the effect on competition some around here think it will. The only way this will cause traditional providers to lower their rates and increase their capacity is if they actually feel threatened by Google's offering. 50,000 - 500,000 people is just not going to be enough to impact any of the big player's bottom lines. Comcast has 15 million Internet customers. Are they really going to mis 50,000 of them?
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ilamontover 15 years ago
Cool idea, but was anyone else reminded of the Internet2 hype when they read this?
thrdOriginalover 15 years ago
Interesting 2007 Cringley article predicting something like this, except more focused on providing the backbone. <a href="http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2007/pulpit_20070119_001510.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2007/pulpit_20070119_0015...</a> He also claims Google "controls more network fiber than any other organization."
drtse4over 15 years ago
Linking this news to what i read an year ago about google criticizing the router manufacturer for their lousy equipments(performance and both hw/sw quality) i just wonder from who they will buy their optical equipments... Sadly they are not an hw company, so no google router anytime soon.
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deltaqueueover 15 years ago
There seem to be a large number of comments on the possible effects, motives, and general thoughts about Google's effort, but I'm intrigued with what it's going to take to get them to consider a particular community or city. Will they be partial to urban or rural neighborhoods? Densely- or openly-developed communities? Newer or older cities? Will demographics play a role?<p>I'm sure they're going to be considering all of these, but short of keeping my fingers crossed and filling out an application I hope some part of Austin, TX gets on the map.
paul9290over 15 years ago
Google needs to sell access to entrepreneurs/large entities who want to get into the ISP business. Doing this will create a market over the monopoly/oligopoly we have here in the US.
ippislover 15 years ago
I don't understand why the go for the 1gbit fiber to the home. it would be more helpfull to their business if everybody in the u.s would have 2 or 5 or 10mbit/sec in a short time , then if everybody has 1gbit/sec in a much longer time.<p>Also , does anybody know mass market applications that require more then 10mbit up/10mbit down?
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sumeetaover 15 years ago
Reminds me of the Google toilet ISP (<a href="http://www.google.com/tisp/" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/tisp/</a>).
patrickgzillover 15 years ago
Comcast is slowly getting into enterprise fiber-based bandwidth for business; my guess is that they will use the enterprise to grow their installed base, then eventually go wholly into fiber based delivery. Of course, at a price... whether this will spur Comcast into a faster rollout is the question.
ez77over 15 years ago
<i>We'll operate an "open access" network, giving users the choice of multiple service providers.</i><p>I'm confused. Won't Google be the sole service provider of its own network?
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mannylee1over 15 years ago
Forget 5 minutes for a full feature film. If you are getting 1gb/sec., you will be able to download a BlueRay movie in 30-60 sec.
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teejaover 15 years ago
Google makes me laugh. They want the world, they want it now, and nobody is going to get in their way. It's great!
kerringtonxover 15 years ago
Really excited about this. Blazing speed!
ubuover 15 years ago
interesing, if only google wouldn't bring the cpu speed down to zero by some of its bad javascript code.
acover 15 years ago
Aquinas Router, anyone?...
khelloworldover 15 years ago
Yay!!.....hmm..wait a second..<p>(addendum: whoa, my tail's on fire!!)
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zitterbewegungover 15 years ago
I for one welcome google as an fiber based internet service provider. Especially if its better than the competitors
zitterbewegungover 15 years ago
I for one welcome google as an fiber based internet service provider. Especially if its better than the competitors I wonder if they will do analytics on the packets or information
JCThoughtscreamover 15 years ago
This is a very - 1 GIGABIT/SEC - interesting development on part of Google. They've successfully - 1 GIGABIT/SEC - established unified control of - 1 GIGABIT/SEC - their entire chain of service without strangling competition. Where Google goes - 1 GIGABIT/SEC - so does everybody else, it seems - and I, for one, fully welcome our thoroughly broadbanded - 1 GIGABIT/SEC - future.<p>There seems to be a lot to look forward to. Say, the INCREDIBLE 1 GIGABIT/SEC SPEED AHAHAHAHAAYES