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Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

518 pointsby merahabout 9 years ago

34 comments

_lce0about 9 years ago
Raspberry is the most important project that made my family interested in &quot;computer things&quot;<p>It gathered the whole family together to play old couch-games[0], something that most powerful consoles haven&#x27;t even been close --specially with the grampas<p>Really exited about what the future will bring us!<p>0: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;emulationstation.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;emulationstation.org&#x2F;</a>
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nfriedlyabout 9 years ago
Comparing the photos to my Pi 2, it doesn&#x27;t seem very different. There&#x27;s an extra IC near the microsd card, a connector beneath the HDMI port, and a few other small changes.<p>But nothing that looks like an antenna. Any idea where that might be?<p>Edit: as lovelearning pointed out, there is a small ceramic-looking piece in the upper-left of the top side, near the GPIO pins and LVDS display connector. That might be it.
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pred_about 9 years ago
All that site returns here is<p><pre><code> FCC Federal Communications Commission Security Violation Your request looked malicious and has been blocked. You can use your browser&#x27;s Back button to return to the previous page. If you have questions, please contact the FCC at 1-888-225-5322 If you think that you have reached this page due to an error on our part, please contact let us know.</code></pre>
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mrpippyabout 9 years ago
Given Broadcom&#x27;s connections to the project, it&#x27;s almost a surprise they didn&#x27;t have some kind of Broadcom option for WiFi&#x2F;BT earlier. Must have stung at Broadcom to be powering the most popular hobbyist ARM Linux board, but almost every one using WiFi powered by Realtek,Ralink,etc.
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simmonsabout 9 years ago
I&#x27;m a little disappointed that (from a brief glance at the documents) it doesn&#x27;t appear to support the 5 Ghz Wi-Fi band. I wonder if it&#x27;s a power issue, or just limited space on the PCB. The 2.4 Ghz band gets kind of crowded in dense urban environments.
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mrpippyabout 9 years ago
Also, good on the Pi Foundation for keeping this listing in the open rather than requesting 6 month confidentiality for the pictures&#x2F;test report (which almost all companies do).
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chatmastaabout 9 years ago
Why does Raspberry Pi not need to conform to the new &quot;standards&quot; of the FCC that require locking down firmware in routers? If it has onboard wifi, and you can turn it into a router... what&#x27;s the difference between someone installing OpenWRT on a raspi vs. installing OpenWRT on a TPLink?<p>edit: This is a legitimate question, not an opinion.
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lovelearningabout 9 years ago
I couldn&#x27;t spot the typical wavy PCB antenna pattern anywhere. Is that small cube in the upper left corner of external top view a ceramic antenna? Looks to me like the 2 LEDs have been shifted further down towards lower left and replaced with something new.<p>Update: Just noticed the radio testing report says single PCB mounted chip ceramic. I still can&#x27;t spot it with certainty.
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zymhanabout 9 years ago
I love how the FCC still has a Sun web server
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deutroniumabout 9 years ago
Neat :) It&#x27;d be cool if they use non-usb ethernet too, fingers crossed!
mrbillabout 9 years ago
Are the BTLE and WiFi the only changes?<p>Still same CPU and RAM as the 2?
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schappimabout 9 years ago
Video and images of the Raspberry Pi available here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=7yXIC1UVKx0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=7yXIC1UVKx0</a>
rb808about 9 years ago
The Raspberry Pi website says they&#x27;re unlikely to have a new version in the next few years. Do they have FCC now? Maybe they just want to add on the radio modules.<p>From the FAQ: &gt; there are no immediate plans to release any more new models. A further new model may be released in 2-3 years, but this is not a firm schedule.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.raspberrypi.org&#x2F;help&#x2F;faqs&#x2F;#generalFuture" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.raspberrypi.org&#x2F;help&#x2F;faqs&#x2F;#generalFuture</a>
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vlunkrabout 9 years ago
One step closer to accessibility for that don&#x27;t have all sorts of usb dongles laying around.
cowmixabout 9 years ago
All we need is USB 3 and it would be perfect.
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cmdrfredabout 9 years ago
I&#x27;ll be picking one up. Onboard WiFi is a big deal.
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ck2about 9 years ago
But you can get almost any wireless ability and keep modern with whatever standard changes by simply using a usb stick.<p>They are super tiny now and barely stick out of the usb port.<p>Why hardwire wireless and outdate a board a few years later?<p>I think in 5 years we got g -&gt; n -&gt; 5ghz -&gt; ac and three bluetooth variants.<p>Now there is indoor lte and other stuff coming.
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sinakabout 9 years ago
The FCC&#x27;s OET website is down at the moment, I&#x27;m guessing probably because of HN traffic. You can find the document cached here though:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fccid.io&#x2F;2ABCB-RPI32" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fccid.io&#x2F;2ABCB-RPI32</a>
mrlambchopabout 9 years ago
having recently sourced near identical components, the combo wifi&#x2F;bt chip was around $1.40 in large volume. I&#x27;d wage in 40nm its &lt; 50c for BRCM to produce depending on the break they got. ant is &lt; 30c.<p>gotta assume this is connected via USB so it won&#x27;t be the lowest power - taking up the 2836&#x27;s sdcard slot would be 6 IO out of the GPIO map which would be over kill. so most likely this solution needs the onboard USB hub &#x2F; ethernet chip and its less likely they will bring connectivity to the cheaper versions.<p>pretty happy with this - saves 2 USB peripherals!
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rasz_plabout 9 years ago
new 64 bit 1.2GHz cpu core confirmed?<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;KRRd7OQ.jpg" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;KRRd7OQ.jpg</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;exuZy58.jpg" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;i.imgur.com&#x2F;exuZy58.jpg</a><p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnx-software.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;02&#x2F;27&#x2F;raspberry-pi-3-model-b-board-adds-wifi-and-bluetooth-connectivity&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnx-software.com&#x2F;2016&#x2F;02&#x2F;27&#x2F;raspberry-pi-3-model-...</a>
atomiabout 9 years ago
Please have GbE
jimmcslimabout 9 years ago
Raspberry Pi&#x27;s 4th birthday coming up...<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.raspberrypi.org&#x2F;blog&#x2F;four-years-of-pi&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.raspberrypi.org&#x2F;blog&#x2F;four-years-of-pi&#x2F;</a><p>&quot;We are going to be doing some celebrating here at Pi Towers on Monday: February 29 is the 4th anniversary (or 1st, if you’re prissy about leap years) of the first sales of the Raspberry Pi 1.&quot;<p>Might be an auspicious date to launch a new version of hardware?
burstmodeabout 9 years ago
3 Generations of PCBs and still no RTC onboard...
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akhilcacharyaabout 9 years ago
Wow, this will give my chip a run for its money&#x2F;performance. My favorite thing about the chip is the onboard connectivity.
jblzabout 9 years ago
Excellent news. I wonder what the radio components will do to overall power consumption of the board. It should be considerably lower than a USB combo wifi &#x2F; bt device, anyhow, no?
AndyKelleyabout 9 years ago
I don&#x27;t think it&#x27;s going to happen but it would be really neat if it supported Vulkan. I want to try to build an arcade machine out of cheap, underpowered hardware.
mrpippyabout 9 years ago
It also has BT Classic: section 7.5 of the test report states &quot;The EUT is a small, single board, computer with WiFi, Bluetooth and Bluetooth LE connectivity.&quot;
XxFurCornxXabout 9 years ago
I must check that out. Reading the comments makes me want a retropie. The link is not working.
alvernabout 9 years ago
Can someone explain to me the room that the test photos are from? Is it sound proof? Why?
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schappimabout 9 years ago
Anyone got a copy of the files? The FCC has pulled them down!
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mlonkibjuyhvabout 9 years ago
Please have a header for an on&#x2F;off button.
musgroveabout 9 years ago
The link seems no workie. FCC server problems.
digi_owlabout 9 years ago
And here i was just about to order a 2...
OedipusRexabout 9 years ago
The onboard Wifi and Bluetooth really makes the barrier of entry for IoT $5 (assuming the stick with the $5 mark)
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