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Ask HN: Raising money for the first time, any tips?

20 pointsby jorgecurioabout 9 years ago
hey guys so I have narrowed it down to 3 or 4 domains with functional MVP. I had about 10 but I really asked is this a vitamin or a painkiller and was able to narrow it down to a 3.<p>I want to raise money to hire 1 engineer to polish up the MVP and be the go to guy for changes.<p>I want a sales guy who will work on base salary and 15% comission.<p>I want a marketing guy who will spin content and accountable for inbound lead generation.<p>I am located in Vancouver, BC. Here&#x27;s why I think Vancouver is a great place to start, #1 salary is super cheap because of the exchange rate. I don&#x27;t need a 100x engineer. I already laid down the bare paths and need a few more bodies to help maintain the ship.<p>So about how much I need to raise I&#x27;m thinking to cover salary:<p>1 intermediate engineer = $65,000 CAD &#x2F; year = $48,888 USD &#x2F; year.<p>1 sales guy + SDR intern ($10.25 cad&#x2F;hr minimum wage in BC) = $45,000 CAD &#x2F; year + 15% comission cap + $21,320 CAD &#x2F; year for SDR intern = 66,320 CAD &#x2F; year = $49,890 USD &#x2F; year.<p>1 marketing guy = $35,000 CAD &#x2F; year = $26,000 USD &#x2F; year.<p>So all together salary burn rate is $124,778 USD &#x2F; year.<p>$10,398 USD &#x2F; month + rent + supplies = $12,398 USD &#x2F; month.<p>So roughly 13k USD &#x2F; month to upkeep with 1 year of runway will be $156,000 USD. I want to target 1 million USD in sales in that period.<p>These are all B2B SaaS products that I&#x27;ve been able to spin off from my main SaaS that I&#x27;ve been working on for 2+ years alone.<p>No free plans, no $19.99&#x2F;month, charge money and earn revenue from day 1.<p>Is this a realistic figure to raise in the beginning? What local meetups should you attend? Do you think it&#x27;s wise to raise money from your own network instead?<p>Basically I&#x27;m looking to see if anyone is interested in going naked call on an option that expires in 1 year without time decay.<p>absolutelynotalking@gmail.com

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ctstoverabout 9 years ago
&gt; 1 intermediate engineer = $65,000 CAD &#x2F; year = $48,888 USD &#x2F; year<p>The gross annual amount of an employee&#x27;s base salary is very different than the cost of hiring an employee with said base salary. I know CA != US, but payroll taxes, benefits, retirement contributions, unemployment and disability insurance, etc can&#x27;t be that alien of a concept. Or is it? In the US estimate 130%-160% of the salary for base employment. Or is circa 30k for an intermediate engineer normal in Vancouver? In which case what would the entry level position make?
benjismithabout 9 years ago
I had a similar idea as you originally with my startup: build a functional MVP, launch with beta testers, recruit co-founders, raise seed capital, and then (finally) start to focus on growth.<p>I wasted probably six months going down blind alleys with this approach. Here are some of the lessons I learned:<p>1) A small group of beta testers will not give your product the time and attention you need to find product-market fit.<p>2) High quality collaborators, willing to devote all their spare waking hours to your vision, are extremely hard to find (and even harder to get up-to-speed). Especially on a budget. You&#x27;ll probably see several promising co-founders come and go before you find a good match.<p>3) Even if you have a really sexy MVP and a great team, it&#x27;s nearly impossible to fundraise until you can point to a handful of satisfied early customers. You might think you can raise $100k (chump change!) to fund your first six months of operations, but you&#x27;re probably wrong about that.<p>The only thing you should be doing right now is getting your product into as many customers&#x27; hands as possible. In your post, you say you plan to &quot;charge money and earn revenue from day 1&quot;.<p>Today is day 1. Go get some customers!
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orasisabout 9 years ago
Forget about raising money right now. Build shit fast. Ship ship ship ship ship ship ship.<p>Read &quot;The Lean Startup&quot;:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Lean-Startup-Entrepreneurs-Continuous-Innovation&#x2F;dp&#x2F;0307887898&#x2F;ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1457387124&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=lean+startup" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Lean-Startup-Entrepreneurs-Continuous-...</a>
loumfabout 9 years ago
Does the main SaaS make money? Use that money to get your first 10 sales. Do annual deals for cash-flow.<p>If someone told me that they will make $1mio in sales on a $156k investment, and they wanted that investment from me (not just do it themselves), I would think it was some kind of scam.
jcrabout 9 years ago
I wish I could be of more help, but I&#x27;m the wrong person to ask. On the bright side, the right people to ask (like YC partners) often hold &quot;Office Hours&quot; to take and answer questions.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?query=office%20hours&amp;sort=byDate&amp;dateRange=all&amp;type=story&amp;storyText=false&amp;prefix&amp;page=0" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;hn.algolia.com&#x2F;?query=office%20hours&amp;sort=byDate&amp;dat...</a>
hotcoolabout 9 years ago
The salary for a marketing person is on the low side IMO. With rent prices being some of the highest in the world, can you even live in Vancouver for $35,000 CAD?
maxxxxxabout 9 years ago
Realistically I&#x27;d say double or triple your expense estimate. You are low-balling yourself. Everything takes much longer and costs more than you expect.
twundeabout 9 years ago
You should probably put some money aside for tools and marketing budget. You probably need a server somewhere and a domain name. Marketing almost certainly needs an advertising budget.
debacleabout 9 years ago
You&#x27;re being incredibly optimistic with all of your estimates here. If you are looking at 3 employees your burn rate is going to be much closer to $300k.
icedchaiabout 9 years ago
wow. around here (northeast US near Boston) you&#x27;re lucky to get one decent guy for 125K.