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I Love the U.N., but It Is Failing

201 pointsby guylepage3about 9 years ago

25 comments

roymurdockabout 9 years ago
Related article: Don&#x27;t be a UN Intern<p><i>First thing’s first. You should understand the objectives of the organization you’re trying to join. There are three primary objectives of the UN system today. The first one is to pay the salaries and the perks of its employees. The second is to give them a microcosm in which they can walk around in suits, look important, use buzzwords, and basically find some, however contrived, meaning. The third one is to make it seem like there is an international political system out there, a framework of rules that everyone respects. This last one is increasingly optional in the post-Cold War geopolitical climate.<p>...<p>Your globetrotting, world-saving dream job doesn’t exist. It hasn’t existed for a while. The world has been explored – it no longer needs explorers, and especially doesn’t need faceless bureaucrats. It needs people who do things. Even if, through blackmail, magic rituals or blind luck, you land a UN job somehow, you will not be part of the world elite – far, far from it. You will push paper watching your years go by; your sole obsession will be sucking up to your neurotic supervisor in the hope of seeing your grade increase by a small notch five years down the road; you will wake up at 55 wondering where your professional life has gone. And that’s even discounting the remote possibility that the funding countries come along and say “Ok guys, the show’s been great, now pack it up and go home, you’re not needed anymore.”</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;desertqueensarah.wordpress.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;08&#x2F;21&#x2F;dont-be-a-un-intern&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;desertqueensarah.wordpress.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;08&#x2F;21&#x2F;dont-be-a-...</a>
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hackuserabout 9 years ago
To a great degree, these complaints should be familiar to anyone in a large bureaucracy: Endless procedure, imcompetence that can&#x27;t be fired, decisions made for political reasons, etc.<p>Now imagine a bureaucracy run by and accountable to all the national government bureaucracies in the world! And remember that the ones most HN readers live under are, despite our whining, the most efficient and least corrupt in the world - the others are often far worse.<p>That&#x27;s the UN. If you are going to have an association of the world&#x27;s governments, I think that&#x27;s the way it&#x27;s going to be.<p>Like democracy, it&#x27;s horrible but better than all the alternatives. It&#x27;s primary purpose, IIRC, is to prevent international war (i.e., wars between nations, as opposed to civil wars). After all the war of human history, after WWI and WWII occurring within a 31 year period (think of that: that&#x27;s like 1985 until today!), international war has almost been put to an end. It&#x27;s now a major exception when it happens, and that fact is really a miracle.<p>They also achieve many other very important things, though expensively and slowly.<p>Remember that the UN is no fuzzy-minded idealist&#x27;s fantasy. It was built by the survivors of WWII and WWI, while the ashes were still smoldering. Those people knew far more of war and the realities of man&#x27;s inhumanity than we can imagine.
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gavmanabout 9 years ago
The UN has a lot of problems beyond just its bureaucracy. I&#x27;m suspicious of it&#x27;s ability to solve the problems it claims it exists to solve even if its bureaucracy was extremely efficient. It seems I read UN scandals on a monthly basis, to recall a few from the past few months:<p>Sexual abuse by it&#x27;s peacekeepers (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;sf&#x2F;world&#x2F;2016&#x2F;02&#x2F;27&#x2F;peacekeepers&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;sf&#x2F;world&#x2F;2016&#x2F;02&#x2F;27&#x2F;peacekeepe...</a>). &quot;Child sexual abuse by UN peacekeepers&quot; even has its own wiki page (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Child_sexual_abuse_by_UN_peacekeepers" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Child_sexual_abuse_by_UN_peace...</a>)<p>Bribes are abound, even a story earlier today (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.seattletimes.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;humanitarian-worker-charged-in-united-nations-bribery-scheme&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.seattletimes.com&#x2F;business&#x2F;humanitarian-worker-cha...</a>, <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;nypost.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;10&#x2F;06&#x2F;former-general-assembly-president-charged-in-un-corruption-scandal&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;nypost.com&#x2F;2015&#x2F;10&#x2F;06&#x2F;former-general-assembly-preside...</a>).<p>Saudi Arabia is on the human rights council (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thedailybeast.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2015&#x2F;09&#x2F;22&#x2F;why-is-saudi-arabia-heading-the-u-n-human-rights-council.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.thedailybeast.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2015&#x2F;09&#x2F;22&#x2F;why-is-saud...</a>). Not exactly a &quot;scandal&quot; but in the same vein.<p>It&#x27;s ever-increasingly hard to take the organization seriously.
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CWuestefeldabout 9 years ago
AIUI, the UN&#x27;s mission is twofold:<p>* Stand up for the sovereignty of the world&#x27;s nations.<p>* Defend human rights throughout the world.<p>These missions are in direct conflict. It&#x27;s impossible to force states to play nice with human rights, while at the same time respect the sovereignty of these states.<p>What we&#x27;re left with is just like the conflict in 2001&#x27;s HAL-9000. Given two conflicting goals, bad things happen. Neither objective is fulfilled, and the system fails in all kinds of other ways too.
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whatyoucantsayabout 9 years ago
The UN is a joke.<p>It breaks its own rules by refusing entry to a country with a vibrant democracy and a roughly comparable population and GDP as Australia—Taiwan. Why? Because China has a veto. Consequently, not only will the UN continue breaking its own guidelines and refusing Taiwan entry but it will also never condemn China&#x27;s repeated threats of invasion.<p>Similar dynamics play out interests concerning other veto wielding countries such as the US or Russia.
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ciesabout 9 years ago
Unrelated to the article: I like the &quot;U&quot; but not the &quot;N&quot;. I&#x27;m hoping that if we get to ever have a world wide office of any kind, that it will represent &quot;people&quot; instead of &quot;nations&quot;. Nations go to war. People are either (1) (ab)used to fight them in name of their nations, or (2) merely trying to protect themselves. The number 1 mostly happens while somehow convincing people of number 2.<p>Anyway I wish for a &quot;UP&quot;, United People, to arise from the ashes of the &quot;UN&quot;. Yes, a people movement.
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gyardleyabout 9 years ago
I&#x27;ve coincidentally been on a couple trips with mid- and low-level UN bureaucrats, and when they got talking, this is exactly what they said - the organization is hidebound, sclerotic, and all-around useless.<p>God, the horror stories - even if they&#x27;re only partially true, there&#x27;s no reason whatsoever for the United States (or any other country) to be funding such a broken organization.
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akhatri_ausabout 9 years ago
The key reason for it&#x27;s failings according to this author is the bureaucracy.<p>One of the reasons the UN was created or transformed out of the league of nations was to prevent world war by providing an avenue of negotiation. By its founding purpose I think it has not done too badly.<p>There&#x27;s a moral duty the UN seems to have, but this is an extra purpose to the UN. There are organisations that don&#x27;t need the echo chambers of other nations that can do the same things, such as doctors without borders.
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mwshermanabout 9 years ago
Bureaucracy of this sort begins with the belief that systems are designed <i>a priori</i> by rules.<p>I am sure that most of the personnel policies that the author alludes to are well-meaning and intuitive. What is out of scope in such rule-making is the empirical outcome. The cost of delay (213 days to hire) is apparently not a factor in the rules.<p>They lose a lot of good people in a presumed attempt to ensure they hire good people. Such an outcome is only recognized <i>a posteriori</i>.
anonbankerabout 9 years ago
This is an extremely biased article. Having been involved in numerous Hague Convention proceedings, UNCITRAL Arbitration proceedings, and witnessing the current treaty renegotiation efforts of my governments with regard to drug legalization[0][1], I see the United Nations succeeding.<p>The United States, and it&#x27;s media arm (NYT being part of it), have been visibly anti-UN pretty much since Clinton left office. Take it from an expatriate: The UN is pretty awesome, once you&#x27;re out of the confines of the Lower 48.<p>0. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;idpc.net&#x2F;events&#x2F;2016&#x2F;02&#x2F;ipu-un-parliamentary-event-action-on-drugs" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;idpc.net&#x2F;events&#x2F;2016&#x2F;02&#x2F;ipu-un-parliamentary-event-ac...</a><p>1. <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;idpc.net&#x2F;policy-advocacy&#x2F;the-un-general-assembly-special-session-on-drugs-ungass-2016" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;idpc.net&#x2F;policy-advocacy&#x2F;the-un-general-assembly-spec...</a>
jacquesmabout 9 years ago
If all the member states would live up to the charter it would do a lot better than it does. Another big problem is veto power abuse in the security council.
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UhUhUhUhabout 9 years ago
Reading the UN declaration of 1948 helps to put things in perspective. It hangs on my wall.
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13thLetterabout 9 years ago
You just have to count up how much time the UN spends focusing on Israel as opposed to <i>every other country in the world</i> to realize that it not merely broken, but genuinely in the hands of the bad guys.
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julie1about 9 years ago
Funny. The ancester of UN (LN <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;League_of_Nations#General_weaknesses" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;League_of_Nations#General_weak...</a>) failed with the same symptoms.<p>Created after WWI to prevent another WW it was disbanded after failing to prevent WWII<p>So, is anyone here implying we go for WWIII ?<p>Let me guess.... Milgram experiment is about the submission to authority.... The biggest problems right now is about the impoverishment of the workers and the &quot;rich getting richer&quot;, but at the opposite of the time between WWI and WWII no one is proposing to prevent what generated WWII. (Mussolini and Hitler were elected notably to break the unions to help the companies stop losing values on paying these greedy workers diminishing the dividends)<p>So .... you really want people to go in the streets and ask that one hour worked should be payed, that tax are equally applied and demand that government do what the people ask?<p>You want the revolution in China, Europa, USA, Canada, Africa .... everywhere except Buthan maybe?<p>Seriously. This world is fine. With a 300$ phone in your pocket and the right app you can solve everything.
rmchughabout 9 years ago
Are there any meaningful opportunities for human rights minded developers in organisations such as this? Put another way, should idealistic developers consider careers in such organisations? If so, which ones and how?
CristianMazzeiabout 9 years ago
I read this article with deep interest; it presents a pretty negative image of the United Nations as a bureaucratic giant unable to deliver due to a handful of incompetent staff and lack of proper management mechanisms. I am concerned about the negative impacts of such image can have to the wide public and those committed UN staff who are tirelessly working in non-family&#x2F;hardship duty stations and reaching out to the most vulnerable.<p>I would like instead to share a brighter view, based on my working experience in various parts of the organization (including the Secretariat and other UN agencies)both at the Headquarters and in the field.<p>The UN is an immense political machinery, controlled by Members States, tasked with the most noble and difficult missions that an organization was ever mandated in the history. The UN is also comprised of myriads of different agencies, funds and programme with very different mandates, administrative capacities and organizational culture. It is too simplistic to lump together what is different.<p>Huge organizations, such as the UN, require rules and procedures to ensure transparency to its constituents. Bureaucracy creates these additional, more often cumbersome, layers. Bureaucracy is indeed a pain and, of course, processes can be simplified and streamlined. However, such changes do not come overnight as they require change of mind among the organization&#x27;s staff, especially the “old guard”.This does not mean that the work of the organization should stop or colleagues should quit. In fact there are ways to &quot;play along with the &quot;administrative vortexes”; for example, a deep knowledge of the rules and regulations, advance planning and proactive actions can accelerate processes. A staff member will not get frustrated or get his&#x2F;her submission rejected if he&#x2F;she knew exactly what are the steps required, what documents to submit etc. Yes, we should focus more on the substantive&#x2F;programmatic work which we are responsible to deliver, but as we are all very knowledgeable and quick to process our salary reimbursement claims, we could also do the same for the required administrative processes that are being mentioned in the article.<p>Once I was asked during an interview how I would overcome bottlenecks caused by bureaucracy. I responded, knowing the procedures, acting on time, using the right templates, following up with the right people, being motivated and having a good dose of patience can help in accelerating the process, at least the part of it I am in control, and will eventually lead to faster results. I did get that job.<p>Recruitment processes take forever. Most of the time this is true and it takes even more time and efforts to deploy competent staff during an emergency. Again, some UN organizations do better than others. For example, some organizations such as UNICEF has &quot;fast track&quot; recruitment procedures for emergency recruitments allowing staff deployment within weeks. UNFPA maintains rosters of pre-vetted candidates that successfully passed 2 days intensive screening. DPKO also keeps roster of pre-screened candidates which enables the organization to deploy staff in 3 months rather than taking 9-12 months as per regular recruitment. It is possible, I have witnesses once my successor being deployed within 3 months from my transfer notification. Indeed there are ways for improvement, especially by learning from where things works better.<p>There is nothing more atrocious than peacekeepers committing abusive acts to the same people they are supposed to protect. This is a major challenge for the UN, as it casts discredits to the entire organization as a whole, including those that are risking their lives daily to create a better world. Therefore, there should be zero tolerance for such abuses and the perpetrators should be properly condemned. At the same time, it is disappointing that most of the media coverage focuses on UN misconduct, committed by a few, rather than on what we do right.<p>However I wish to point out that most of these abuses are carried out by military personnel serving in peacekeeping missions. The UN does not have a standing military force and depends on the willing of countries to deploy their national troops temporary (normally 6-12 months) to serve under the UN flag (and their own flag), and fight someone else&#x27;s wars. Consequently, these soldiers are national citizens, who bring their own training and culture to the UN, and when they commit these abuses they should be considered as such too. I have witnessed cases when abuses committed by just one or two soldiers resulted in the entire company (hundred soldiers) repatriating.<p>The majority of peacekeepers perform a tremendous job by ensuring peace in war-torns parts of this planet, far from their families, risking their life daily to defend peace but still too often unnoticed. This is what I would like to emphasize.<p>In conclusion, the UN needs constant improvement. It is up to its staff. Those who have served for long can help taking stock of the best practices of the organization&#x27;s legacy with an eye to future challenges. It is also up to the organization’s newcomers, preferably more from the -outside- such as private sector, government secondment, to bring innovative ideas, enthusiasm and help the UN to keep up with the pace of a fast evolving world.<p>I believe this brighter view of the UN would be more beneficial to bring the necessary change to the United Nations.
dellsystemabout 9 years ago
Kenneth Cain, a former UN human rights lawyer, wrote a piece in a similar vein: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;world&#x2F;2005&#x2F;apr&#x2F;03&#x2F;theobserver1" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;world&#x2F;2005&#x2F;apr&#x2F;03&#x2F;theobserver1</a> It was written over a decade ago but some of the points mentioned still feel very familiar today.
rwmjabout 9 years ago
Interesting article about the political shenanigans surrounding the UN Commission on Narcotic Drugs, going on in Vienna at the moment:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;politics.co.uk&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;2016&#x2F;03&#x2F;15&#x2F;the-un-fades-into-irrelevance-in-the-war-on-drugs" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;politics.co.uk&#x2F;blogs&#x2F;2016&#x2F;03&#x2F;15&#x2F;the-un-fades-into-irr...</a>
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matthewmcgabout 9 years ago
Do these problems with the top level UN organization extend to its specialized sub-organizations like the WHO or the ICAO? From what I can see those are less flashy but do a workmanlike job coordinating intergovernmental efforts in important fields.
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hunvreusabout 9 years ago
The UN and many similar organizations in the non-profit&#x2F;non-governmental&#x2F;humanitarian&#x2F;development space simply lack the incentive structure to do the right thing. Add to this the administrative weight of large organizations and you have the perfect recipe for an unbelievable shit show.<p>I hope that more organization like Watsi [1] or ONE [2] emerge and take donations away from more traditional and established non-profits, but I won&#x27;t be holding my breath for it.<p>At the end of the day, the private sector probably yields more positive impact.<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;watsi.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;watsi.org&#x2F;</a><p>[2]: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;one.org" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;one.org</a>
endeabout 9 years ago
The UN is probably better described as &quot;The WW2 Winning Team + associates&quot;. Please adjust expectations from here on out accordingly.
abpavelabout 9 years ago
6-member permanent security council members with veto ensures that nothing related to their interests is passed. It also shows who governs U.N.
orkidaabout 9 years ago
what would you do if you were that assistsnt secretary to fix the un?<p>please i need an answer
orkidaabout 9 years ago
what would you do if you were that assistant secretary to fix the un?<p>please i need an answer
joshuaheardabout 9 years ago
The human species has a long way to go.