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Powa: The startup that fell to earth

190 pointsby dan1234about 9 years ago

19 comments

Twirrimabout 9 years ago
That article reveals a story that&#x27;s one <i>facepalm</i> after another. An example of the worst &quot;rockstar founder&quot; attitude backed by apparently clueless investors.<p>&gt; Powa occupied two floors of the prestigious Heron Tower at the heart of the city of London, and had equally lavish accommodation in Hong Kong, New York and across Europe.<p>Before having established proper cash flow?! When all their &quot;sales&quot; were just &quot;letters of intent&quot;. How were investors even remotely convinced it was a good deal?<p>&gt; One of the more printable comments is this: &quot;You don&#x27;t employ intelligent, highly experienced people to treat them like something unpleasant under your shoe by telling them to forget everything they know, as your way isn&#x27;t working&quot;<p>I wonder what the staff turnover was like? The only time I worked for a CEO who treated his employees with that little respect, they had a 90%&#x2F;2 years turnover. No one was prepared to stick around and support someone who would send motivational emails saying &quot;Ask not what your company can do for you, ask what you can do for the company&quot; as the CEO was screwing up sales deals. I always wondered if he&#x27;d ever figure it out. Even burned my bridge there trying to help him understand what was going on during the exit interview.<p>&gt; According to several former employees, at one Christmas bash in Mayfair, strippers were hired to perform, to the discomfort of many present.<p>Grew up idolising the worst aspects of Yuppie culture?<p>&gt; &quot;While the company was going under, he&#x27;s fooling around in a photography studio pretending to be Ziggy Stardust. The guy is a narcissistic idiot.&quot;<p>Certainly sounds like it...
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ttctciyfabout 9 years ago
There are some gems at the glassdoor site referred to in the article.<p><i>It is true, CTO did make whole team of people redundant on New Years Eve via voicemail - maybe &#x27;how to&#x27; book on leadership taught him redundancy procedure.</i><p><i>Led by a truly odious individual, this attitude is prevalent throughout the company. Senior management are relics of the 80&#x27;s living off their success in the last dotcom boom (and bust), who believe the film &#x27;Wall Street&#x27; is a training manual for management, business practices and team leadership.</i><p>These were via <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.glassdoor.com&#x2F;Reviews&#x2F;Employee-Review-Powa-Technologies-RVW3877050.htm" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.glassdoor.com&#x2F;Reviews&#x2F;Employee-Review-Powa-Techn...</a> - looks like a signup would be necessary to get the full reviews.<p>I noticed, though, that clicking through to the full reviews page, the most recent are glowing ones from Powa&#x27;s head of development and head of sales ;)
jaymzcampbellabout 9 years ago
I had a meeting with their sales people back in 2013 or so, a few year anyway, and I remember thinking after the hour long pitch that the claims where entirely delusional and pumped up. It was &quot;just&quot; a QR code with an app behind it and ultimately nothing at all fancy but they spoke about it like it was a total paradigm shift in buying. I never got how they lasted so long, reading the glassdoor reviews over the past year it was clearly a sinking ship years ago.<p>I honestly can&#x27;t understand how they got nearly $100m in funding.
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hitekkerabout 9 years ago
One reminder I say to myself when reading stories like this:<p>It can happen to you.<p>Dramatic failure, maybe not: but there are plenty of startups out there in that gray zone of &quot;we don&#x27;t really know what we&#x27;re doing but we have several redeeming qualities!&quot;<p>That zone, the upper 10% of &quot;hyped&quot; startups shall we say, are far more deceptive, and therefore dangerous, than the &quot;obvious&quot; bad companies, the bottom 90%. It&#x27;s easy to laugh at all those investors who got hornswoggled by an out-and-out narcissist. It&#x27;s less easy when the team is super- smart, the founders super-motivated and the only factors missing just happen to be what separates the 10% from the 1% who are truly successful. It could be product-market fit, work-life balance, or whatever the team needs at the moment. The only way to know is to be super-paranoid[1]<p>Much like the stuff on &#x2F;r&#x2F;subredditdrama or &#x2F;r&#x2F;cringe, spectacles of human foibles convey &quot;I&#x27;m better than the worst, so I am good.&quot; which, for me, translates into a false sense of confidence.<p>[1] <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goodreads.com&#x2F;book&#x2F;show&#x2F;66863.Only_the_Paranoid_Survive" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.goodreads.com&#x2F;book&#x2F;show&#x2F;66863.Only_the_Paranoid_S...</a>
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unfuncoabout 9 years ago
I&#x27;ve worked with Venda (for two separate companies) and met Dan Wagner and their platform is truly an awful piece of software, and the man himself isn&#x27;t much better, my job was basically to find methods of subverting the software in order to do what our marketing team wanted. It&#x27;s roughly £6k per month, and account management is slow to respond and it&#x27;s very difficult to do anything meaningful with the technology. One of the companies is still with Venda with the intention of moving away, and one moved to DemandWare after roughly a year.<p>Powa is Venda&#x27;s answer to Shopify, trying to capture the smaller market, the software, and the management, was never good enough to compete.
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Nursieabout 9 years ago
I worked with them through 2014 and saw the NYE firing. Pretty brutal.<p>But at that point the &#x27;agile&#x27; team hadn&#x27;t delivered in over a year. Badly mismanaged...
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coldcodeabout 9 years ago
Getting money from VCs is usually difficult, how do idiots like this guy scam $200M from people? Makes the VCs look equally stupid.
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drcongoabout 9 years ago
The opening paragraph on the CEO&#x27;s wikipedia page is a gem: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dan_Wagner" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Dan_Wagner</a>
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diskcatabout 9 years ago
You need basically every merchant to sign up for your payment app to work.<p>Otherwise people would just use credit cards, who have been here since forever.
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ianesabout 9 years ago
For those interested in seeing Dan Wagner in action, this is a video Christmas message (4.44 mins) sent to all staff in December 2015. Powa went into administration in February.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;sWhI5YK-_No" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;sWhI5YK-_No</a>
CM30about 9 years ago
Wow, the letter of intent thing is kind of depressing. I mean, say what you like about Dragon&#x27;s Den&#x2F;Shark Tank esque &#x27;business&#x27; TV shows, but that point comes up in almost every episode; a letter of intent is not a deal or contract. But no, a &#x27;2 billion dollar&#x27; business was rewarding staff for getting these.<p>And yeah, all the expensive office space, fraternity esque atmosphere, manager posing for photoshoots stuff... it&#x27;s like the company was set up and run by people who wanted the glamour of running a large company rather than those who wanted to actually make a viable business out of it. The whole thing feels like something you&#x27;d read about a dotcom business in the 90s, right before the crash.
debarshriabout 9 years ago
Story sounds quite close to what happened to boo.com <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Boo.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Boo.com</a>
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l33tbroabout 9 years ago
Good riddance. Dan Wagner was basically Gordon Gecko via David Brent.
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etermabout 9 years ago
&quot; The start-up said that adding its PowaTag button to sites would reduce the risk of customers changing their mind before completing a purchase &quot;<p>Instead they&#x27;ll change their mind after it has been dispatched, costing the vendor more.<p>In the UK at least distance selling rules mean that anything[1] bought on the internet can be returned up to 14 days later without requiring a reason.<p>[1] There are of course some exceptions for certain product types.
ianesabout 9 years ago
interesting insight here into how Powa&#x27;s management tried to manipulate the reviews on the Glassdoor site, written by an ex-CFO of Powa.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.linkedin.com&#x2F;pulse&#x2F;powa-glassdoor-reviews-were-manipulated-steven-prowse" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.linkedin.com&#x2F;pulse&#x2F;powa-glassdoor-reviews-were-m...</a>
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dansoabout 9 years ago
Sounds like some people were miffed that they missed out on Clinkle and overcorrected a bit too much.
spackerabout 9 years ago
Dan Wagner talking about an employers&#x27; responsibilities to its employees <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;Udc46TNfOtY?t=3m42s" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;Udc46TNfOtY?t=3m42s</a>
MattyRadabout 9 years ago
Sounds like the startup was run by Russ Hanneman. It&#x27;s eerie that the characters in Silicon Valley (the TV show) can be pointed to real life people so easily.
jorgecurioabout 9 years ago
&gt; the deal&quot;. Mr Wagner, who claims to have a stellar record as a serial entrepreneur, was still telling everyone who would listen that his was a company that would be bigger than Google or Facebook one day. As recently as last October, he told Evan Davis on Radio 4&#x27;s Bottom Line that the business had been valued at $2.7bn by its backers Wellington. Evan suggested that was a meaningless figure because Powa hadn&#x27;t made any money yet. &quot;We&#x27;re a growth tech business,&quot; Mr Wagner replied, maintaining it was other people who had set that value.<p>holy crap this reads just like the interview with Pets.com in a 1999 edition of some PC magazine