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Here Are Google, Amazon and Facebook’s Secrets to Hiring the Best People

200 pointsby AJAlabsabout 9 years ago

40 comments

rdtscabout 9 years ago
I like telling my AWS interviewing story. They forgot to call the first time. Then they were &quot;impressed&quot; and invited me for an onsite. All seemed well, except they forgot about me coming that day or just people who were supposed to interview me were gone. Everyone asked pretty much the same &quot;leadership principles&quot; questions, which I refused to parrot back through my &quot;life experiences&quot; -- I guess it went against my own personal &quot;principles&quot;.<p>Oh and they forgot about me during lunch. Not that I was hungry, but it just added to the &quot;oh it can&#x27;t be as bad as the blogs say, surely...&quot; factor. So sat in the office looking around. After a while started wondering around the hallways, hoping someone would say &quot;Are you allowed to be here? Can I help you?&quot;. So that was fun. And that&#x27;s not all though, also said they&#x27;d call within 2 days to let me know the results, which of course ended up being 3 weeks.<p>It was worth it though -- it made for a great story!
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badmadradabout 9 years ago
So true. I had an Amazon interview where I wanted to hang up. There were moments where I would get questioned or berated for not using such great AWS tech like Opsworks and Cloudformation. Instead of being impressed with my completely valid approach they fixated on the fact I didn&#x27;t use their stuff and it became a bit combative&#x2F;snarky. So Amazon certainly isn&#x27;t for me. Thanks for EC2 and two day shipping though.
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tsunamifuryabout 9 years ago
For those not in the know, the Cooper Review is witty blog written by a former Googler... Expect satire not facts.
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gozur88about 9 years ago
Hahahaha. I always laugh when I read headlines like this. A few years back a guy we were dying to get rid of finally left... and went to Google.
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jostmeyabout 9 years ago
So I actually interviewed at a company where I didn&#x27;t have clear instructions, had to switch rooms, ect. and it was a real turn off. First, I felt flustered, and I bombed the interview. But I didn&#x27;t care because it left me with a bad impression about the company. It is funny because going into the interview I thought it would be the coolest place, and about halfway through I had already decided there was no way I would take a job there.
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calcsamabout 9 years ago
Cached: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:61DmBRySIUAJ:thecooperreview.com&#x2F;google-amazon-facebook-secrets-hiring-best-people&#x2F;+&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:61DmBRy...</a>
yeukhonabout 9 years ago
I see 502. I guess I am entitled to the secret sauce because I am trying to get into FB lol.<p>Anyway, here is the cache version: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:61DmBRySIUAJ:thecooperreview.com&#x2F;google-amazon-facebook-secrets-hiring-best-people&#x2F;+&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:61DmBRy...</a><p>Basically, this interview process allows you to weed out candidates who<p>1) disapprove open floor plan work environment, sitting next than six feet away from co-worker (yeah let&#x27;s cramp twenty people together around so we can hear each other yelling at the headphone)<p>2) markers are either missing or used up and no one replaces them. oh you want to project your screen? good luck find a working remote or HDMI cable.
diffractionabout 9 years ago
east coast version: order the wrong breakfast, hit &#x27;em right in the grits (<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;charles-schwab-ceo-takes-job-candidates-to-breakfast-messes-up-their-order-2016-2" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessinsider.com&#x2F;charles-schwab-ceo-takes-job-...</a>) (not satire, but should be)
cyanbaneabout 9 years ago
Someone get her a job writing for Silicon Valley (HBO). Seems like a great addition.
xvolterabout 9 years ago
I&#x27;ve seen dozens of articles about how Google, Amazon and other large tech companies hire the best. It&#x27;s a terrible assumption that these tech giants hire the best, they simply can&#x27;t be picky with their hiring, they need to grow teams to keep up with progress, and replace the members who are leaving. They need to hire quickly, so they refine their hiring process to get qualified candidates, but not the best candidates out there. Sure, they might eventually hire some really good people, but the majority can&#x27;t be held to a hire standard.
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vpayetteabout 9 years ago
Hilarious and anecdotally true in my one experience.
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pcurveabout 9 years ago
Any basis to this?<p>Every single article on the site has titles that would give Buzzfeed run for its money.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;thecooperreview.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;thecooperreview.com&#x2F;</a>
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kearneyandyabout 9 years ago
&quot;3 months later, call and offer the candidate a job she didn’t apply for&quot; Even if they accept, you don&#x27;t need to pay the referral bonus. win, win!
sidcoolabout 9 years ago
Is this satire? I would like to believe it, but not sure.
tomtang0514about 9 years ago
Are you sure those aren&#x27;t the reasons such company misses great talents?
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ryanmarshabout 9 years ago
I honestly thought this was satire.
EGregabout 9 years ago
But why three months? They don&#x27;t explain this part very well. Everything else was spot on.
banku_broughamabout 9 years ago
i....laughed so very hard during this article, oh my. and it had very little to do with the beers meeting i had at 4:30 today in a Seattle building named after an Austrian physicist. seriously big laughs here, thank you, from a tech (my wife says &#x27;retail&#x27;) company worker. huge laughs, #5 was the best, dying over here.<p>laugh or cry i guess, consider this data point: my team had 23 loops for a particular role, all shot down because candidate clearly had not seen this article yet. Do RSU&#x27;s factor into the hours spent by 8+ team members trying to fill 8 open out of 50 total headcount? Because on base salary alone we have already paid for like 3 headcount or something.
joeaxabout 9 years ago
The sad truth is many startups and wannabe hot tech companies are going to read this article not realizing it&#x27;s satire, and try these methods out and unintentionally alienate their entire pool of qualified candidates in the process.
Patrick_Devineabout 9 years ago
Came here expecting many commenters to not get that it was satire. Was not disappointed.
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dimglabout 9 years ago
This perfectly describes a recent interview I had with a company in the Bay Area... Spoiler alert: I didn&#x27;t get the job.
tyingqabout 9 years ago
The illustrations are just...magnificent.
patmcguireabout 9 years ago
Barely satire, the only difference from reality is that they meant to do it.
shmerlabout 9 years ago
That&#x27;s a joke, right?
yellowpugabout 9 years ago
You can&#x27;t go wrong with probing questions on the toilet
Justransactabout 9 years ago
This post is really helpful to Job seekers.
fslothabout 9 years ago
Uh, and if the company is not a known behemoth of talent using these tactics will give a very strong signal of incompetence.
cjmcqueenabout 9 years ago
I hire people at one of these companies, I thought this was sarcasm because this seems like a long list of what not to do.
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sunnypsabout 9 years ago
This is my new favorite website.
TheBlightabout 9 years ago
This seems pretty pointless.
mayneackabout 9 years ago
does this site have an RSS feed?
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ianamartinabout 9 years ago
As someone who is going through a lot of interviews right now, this really made me laugh. Though it also frustrates me.<p>Before I was in technology, I was a musician. I hate auditions. Every classical musician hates auditioning for an orchestra gig. It&#x27;s an awful situation that is totally unrealistic and isn&#x27;t a good measure of how you perform in reality, in an orchestra.<p>You&#x27;re standing behind a blind curtain with a handful of people on the other side, and you are playing a violin part from some of the most difficult literature out there with none of the rest of the orchestra for context.<p>The people on the other side of the screen are waiting for you to make a mistake or just to play something in a style that they don&#x27;t particularly like so that they can cut you off and say, &quot;Thank you. Next!&quot;<p>It&#x27;s fucking brutal. The stress is insane, and the disappointment when you play 10 notes and get sent out is crazy.<p>When you actually win your job that will pay you a grand total of maybe 20k&#x2F;year and you realize that you just beat 1,100 people who all went to better music schools than you did, it&#x27;s pretty euphoric. Until you realize that you now need to go win another 3 of these jobs to make a decent living and travel around to each of them wherever they are.<p>But as nuts as that experience is, it&#x27;s <i>still</i> better than the experience of interviewing for tech jobs. I know what I&#x27;m up against with an audition. I know what excerpts I&#x27;ll be playing for as much as a year in advance. Some of the hardest are so standard that I&#x27;ve been practicing them for more than 10 years. It&#x27;s brutal, but it&#x27;s known territory. If you keep at it long enough, it is possible to win reliably.<p>Tech interviews are wildly unpredictable. The range of experiences I&#x27;ve had in the last couple of months is seriously dysfunctional.<p>Is it a one-person show where you are going to spend the entire time answering questions about the interviewer&#x27;s PhD project with machine learning (for a Python web developer role) and get tossed out because you are not an ML expert?<p>Maybe.<p>Is it a team of 8 developers asking you about Linux kernel internals?<p>Maybe.<p>Is it 3 guys in shorts who actually point and laugh at you for wearing a suit and tie to an interview? Because who does that?<p>Maybe.<p>Does the director of the dept. actually give you a real idea of what the process is during the phone screen and tell you what to prepare for and what to expect and how to be successful?<p>That happens sometimes as well, thank goodness.<p>I probably sound more frustrated than I really am. But I&#x27;m starting to judge companies based on their hiring process as harshly or possibly more so than they judge me--starting with the phone screen.<p>It&#x27;s mostly a complete shitshow out there right now.<p>If you can&#x27;t respect my time enough to call within 5 minutes of when we agreed to talk, and you also can&#x27;t be bothered to send a quick email letting me know that you are running late, what does that tell me about how you are going to treat me if you do decide to hire me? Nothing good.<p>If you advertise a job that covers a certain topic and then spend all of our interview time on a completely different topic, what does that tell me about you as a manager or your ability to stay focused on a problem I can help with after you do hire me? Nothing good.<p>If you show up to my in-person completely unprepared, distracted, and acting like you would rather be doing anything but interviewing me, what does that tell me about what it would be like to work for you and need to have a meeting? Nothing good.<p>Looking at my calendar since January, I&#x27;ve had more than 50 phone screens, about thirty in-persons, 10 follow-ups&#x2F;code reviews, and turned down 3 offers because of bullshittery mentioned above. I&#x27;m not looking for a quick gig or a paycheck for now. I&#x27;m looking for a career and an opportunity to settle down for the next 10-15 years.<p>The music life was brutal for me. It&#x27;s a lot of hard work, a lot of travel, no benefits, and very low pay. But you always knew that when you didn&#x27;t win the job, it was because you just weren&#x27;t good enough.<p>The tech life feels more like a lottery than anything related to actual skills, knowledge, or abilities.<p>We should be doing better than that.
paxunixabout 9 years ago
I didn&#x27;t even read the article because I know there is no secret.<p>We don&#x27;t hire the best people. We hire average people, some good people, some great people, some mediocre people, and some people who aren&#x27;t very good at their jobs. Some of those mediocre and average people turn out to be great people after all. There&#x27;s no secret to it. We like telling ourselves there is a secret because everyone likes to feel special and we think if we can mirror other companies that we think are successful then we can be successful just like they were.<p>In the end, you have people working with people. If you&#x27;re fortunate, you get the right people interviewing the right person at the right time, and you get a great hire. At best, you can filter out the obviously bad ones. The rest, you&#x27;ll find out about as you go. Some will surprise you, some will meet your expectations, and some will be disasters. Fire the bad ones; coach and mentor the average ones; keep track of the great ones.<p>Go build some shit with people you like building shit with and stop trying to figure out how to make hiring objective. You can&#x27;t.
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kevinliangabout 9 years ago
LOL! good one!
mxuribeabout 9 years ago
This is hilariously genius!
diskcatabout 9 years ago
This is satire btw.
andyidsingaabout 9 years ago
&quot;These top tech companies each receive over one billion resumes per year (source needed). So it’s safe to say they have a good process for choosing the best job candidates. &quot;<p>nope -- its not safe to say that.
recroadabout 9 years ago
&quot;Make the interview schedule as confusing and unpredictable as possible&quot;<p>No thanks, I&#x27;ll go work somewhere else.
yandrypozoabout 9 years ago
I didn&#x27;t read the article neither, I don&#x27;t believe those companies have the best people, that&#x27;s silly
chrome_xabout 9 years ago
Sorry I am still a newbie but are these f<i></i>king ways get the &#x27;best&#x27; out of a candidate or the &#x27;worst&#x27; ever? Come on!