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Apply HN: 401L before 401K (Education loan)

5 pointsby vs2370about 9 years ago
Problem - Broken education loans http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wsj.com&#x2F;articles&#x2F;more-than-40-of-student-borrowers-arent-making-payments-1459971348?mod=e2fb<p>401L is a platform that enables employers to contribute certain agreed upon percentage towards its employee&#x27;s(typically a new college hire) education loan repayment<p>How it works - Employer on boards the new employee into the system - Employee then choses a certain percentage of their salary to be paid towards their loan. - Employer fills in their contribution details( 1%, 2%, etc) - Every pay check date, the platform makes a timely payment to the loan.

5 comments

bestattackabout 9 years ago
To evaluate this idea further, I&#x27;d want to know how fast (how much faster) the loan will be paid off given various salary percentages. Is this a good way to pay off a loan? (Do I even want to pay off the loan faster?)<p>As an employer, you have to convince me to offer it as a benefit, which means convincing me that my employees will love it, that it will help to attract and retain great people. This makes me worried because it is one of those &quot;vitamin, not painkiller&quot; problems - and it&#x27;s a niche one at that - I am worried that people don&#x27;t want it and it will be hard to get into people&#x27;s hands.
kjksfabout 9 years ago
Why involve employers in the loop at all? If automation is the goal, you could (presumably, not sure if it&#x27;s actually legally&#x2F;technically possible) connect someone&#x27;s bank account to loan repayment.<p>How much of a pain it is for people to make those payments. Is it manual process now?<p>What&#x27;s in it for the employer? Taking a significant headache of managing such system on behalf of the employee. There are probably legal ramifications for this scheme.<p>Presumably this would have to integrate with payroll systems. Which systems can you already integrate with?<p>Wouldn&#x27;t employee be reluctant to disclose his loan repayment status? That doesn&#x27;t sound like something employer should know.<p>Did you study potential legal ramifications of being intermediary between a person and loan provider?
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CaliforniaKarlabout 9 years ago
The first thing that came to my mind was that this would be a modified form a wage garnishing, but with employer contributions included.<p>Do you have plans to include lobbying as a budget item? Just searching around, it seems that &quot;Make student-loan repayment pre-taxable&quot; has been brought up in the US before.<p>I&#x27;m curious: Where would you expect to take your cut, and how? Would it be a flat fee per enrolled employee, or maybe a % of $ being contributed?<p>If something like this did become a reality, I would expect it to eventually be bought by a benefits-handling institution like Fidelity or CREF, something who already does tight interaction with corporate payroll platforms.
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brudgersabout 9 years ago
In the US, 401k&#x27;s are enabled by legislation that provides tax deferred status for the income and its growth. Without enabling tax legislation wouldn&#x27;t this sort of benefit be taxed as ordinary income? Is so, what advantage would this provide to employees and employers over cash and the standard student loan interest deductions?
treeformabout 9 years ago
This could be cool if the &quot;401L&quot; would have the proper tax incentives around it as well. I think there is very small tax incentive to repay student loans now. How does that work exactly?<p>Now if Employers add matching as a benefit that could be a cool perk. It seems like Employers stopped doing 401K matching lately. Did they stop and why?
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