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Scientists Taking Steps to Defend Work on Climate

16 pointsby retroabout 15 years ago

5 comments

lotharbotabout 15 years ago
Imagine an engineer who normally comes to work in jeans and a t-shirt. One day the boss says "I want you to present your product tomorrow. Here's the address." So the engineer cobbles together a demo, dresses up in his kakhis and a polo shirt, and shows up to present... at a nationally-televised, black-tie event. That's analagous to the situation in which climate scientists now find themselves.<p>For the most part, climate scientists are doing normal science, and thinking in terms of presenting their work to other scientists. But their work has become the centerpiece for huge global initiatives with large economic, environmental, and political impacts. This means their results, methods, and even personalities are being subject to an unusual degree of criticism (some valid, some not.)<p>Given the situation, it's absolutely vital for climate scientists to be as forthcoming as possible -- engaging critics, admitting mistakes, and opening up data (as in the article's subtitle.) It's absolutely vital for climate scientists to do a better job of explaining than they've done thus far, and to be very clear about what's known to what level of certainty based on what evidence.<p>(IMO, it's also absolutely vital for scientists, rather than politically polarized figures like Al Gore, to do the explaining.)
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patio11about 15 years ago
"“We have to do a better job of explaining that there is always more to learn, always uncertainties to be addressed,” said John P. Holdren, an environmental scientist and the White House science adviser. “But we also need to remind people that the occasions where a large consensus is overturned by a scientific heretic are very, very rare.”"<p>That is a... <i>curious</i> word choice for the White House science adviser.
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timrabout 15 years ago
Is there a non-editorial reason that a new title had to be submitted for this article? The original title:<p><i>"Scientists Taking Steps to Defend Work on Climate"</i><p>is more succinct, and carries a different connotation than the one invented by retro:<p><i>"Climate scientists beginning to admit mistakes and open up their data."</i>
retroabout 15 years ago
In case anyone questions why the HN title is different from the NYT title, I adapted it from the subhead which reads as follows: <i>"Grudgingly, many climate scientists are beginning to engage critics, admit mistakes and open up their data."</i>
ahkabout 15 years ago
Definitely a good thing if they start opening up more and start engaging with skeptics in debates instead of just appealing to authority.<p>But the true reason no one will believe their claims till it's too late is that they have no good solutions other than pushing us to the dark ages in terms of energy consumption.<p>IMO climate scientists should also start thinking about solutions to the climate problem (even if its not exactly their field). We could definitely use more people thinking about solutions rather than just describing the problem or its extent.
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