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Why I Haven’t Fixed Your Issue Yet

247 pointsby s_severusabout 9 years ago

33 comments

Wintamuteabout 9 years ago
I agree with most of those, although I&#x27;d add a bullet point to the agreement:<p>- If I don&#x27;t have the time or interest to support the project any longer I agree to reach out to trusted contributors and give them commit rights, or put a clear notice on the readme: &quot;This project is not actively maintained&quot; so users can make an informed choice
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mamurphyabout 9 years ago
It&#x27;s not clear whether this is getting sincere upvotes despite that the page is currently failing to load or ironic upvotes because the page is currently failing to load.<p>In any event, he&#x27;s not fixing your issue yet because he has limited free time and, apparently, has issues of his own to fix.
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Uptrendaabout 9 years ago
Thought the blank page was the point he was trying to make in that a blank canvas, editor, notebook, etc is daunting when you first get started and you can easily find excuses to keep putting it off. But apparently there&#x27;s a technical issue here. Or is that intentional?
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Shizkaabout 9 years ago
Cached version here: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?site=&amp;source=hp&amp;q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.michaelbromley.co.uk%2Fblog%2F529%2Fwhy-i-havent-fixed-your-issue-yet&amp;oq=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.michaelbromley.co.uk%2Fblog%2F529%2Fwhy-i-havent-fixed-your-issue-ye" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?site=&amp;source=hp...</a>
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franciscopabout 9 years ago
I feel the pain. I maintain a couple of slightly popular repos and the issues are sometimes overwhelming, even more when I have to debug some issue in an environment I don&#x27;t own (iOS) or when the issue runs deep (PhantomJS issue =&gt; testing issue =&gt; now my issue).
lifeisstillgoodabout 9 years ago
So the Bing cache is good and the article worth reading<p>This is however the money shot:<p>&gt;&gt; how many parts of your company’s product are coupled to the lifestyle and priorities of some lone, unpaid package maintainer? It’s something I have to think about too – in my day-job I build software on top of many FOSS libraries, many of which are probably maintained by people in similar circumstances to my own.<p>Given that my day job builds on (last count) 953 npm packages, most of which are probably different authors, not to mention servers, backend etc etc, I do really worry we are finding OSS backwards.<p>Good luck to the OP and his young family. And perhaps GitHub can set up a &quot;pay me a days freelance rates work for issues fixed&quot; feature
rwmjabout 9 years ago
He misses another way to get bugs fixed in open source software: Pay a developer to fix them. However that does raise the problem that it&#x27;s hard to find a competent developer to do piecework (easy to find an <i>in</i>competent developer of course). All the good open source developers are employed.
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some1elseabout 9 years ago
Tangent: Looking forward to the resurgence of static page generators.
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Bahamutabout 9 years ago
Heh, I have an issue filed in a repository of his too, but I had a suitable workaround.<p>As a maintainer of a major library myself, I completely concur with the article - while I don&#x27;t have a baby, I am a long distance runner, as well as someone who directs albums of music. I also like to socialize as well, and every now and then I give talks (oftentimes traveling to give them), interview (even having excessive time lost to take home projects), and experiment with new technology or contribute to other open source projects.<p>I think one thing people need to do is help us help you. It saves us a lot of mental energy, as well as speeds things up. If you can, filing a pull request would be great too if you understand the parameters of the problem
nraynaudabout 9 years ago
Funny, I had exactly the reciprocal experience with Fritzing, I spent 3 weeks (I know, I&#x27;m slow) developing a significant improvement in one of the most important part on a software they make money on. And one year later, the PR is still not merged.
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demircancelebiabout 9 years ago
I think money might be a good motivator in such circumstances. Maybe Github should think about integrating &quot;paid requests&quot;. I think we would definitely have more open source software at better quality.
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chippyabout 9 years ago
I think this could be a valid reason - I know there are issues in some of my projects that I won&#x27;t get around to because I may have lost interest in but which if someone would pay me to fix an issue or two I&#x27;d glady fix it:<p>&quot;Because you are not offering me any money to fix it&quot;
hkjgkjyabout 9 years ago
Another good reason to have your blog be static pages compiled and served from FS. Worse is better.
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danraabout 9 years ago
Why not pass over management of the repository to someone else? Sounds like all sides would benefit.
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BinaryIdiotabout 9 years ago
I was pretty confused to be given a cursor on a web page with no content just a basic layout. Oh well.
nickpsecurityabout 9 years ago
It&#x27;s nice except for the one part where he says he has some responsibility to his users. He doesn&#x27;t. Not at all. That would be a one-way relationship or responsibility. If his users were paying him, then I could see some responsibility. If it&#x27;s free and&#x2F;or incomplete, it&#x27;s the users that have responsibility when they download it: be grateful for work done so far, make sure it works as intended, and so on.<p>FOSS developers shouldn&#x27;t feel guilty or responsible in the slightest for their users unless their users&#x27; success is part of the developers&#x27; lifelong goals. For instance, protecting liberty by making sure Tor and GPG work properly. Otherwise, screw them if they want something done but won&#x27;t contribute anything back.
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s_severusabout 9 years ago
Sorry, gonna try to fix...
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lwhalenabout 9 years ago
Heh, looks like HackerNews hugs hard these days :-)
ReFruityabout 9 years ago
Someone has to write a script that archives pages automatically when they appear on HN.
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chubotabout 9 years ago
Off topic, but to me this indicates a dev tool issue:<p>&quot;Do you know what I like to do in that time? Unfortunately for you, the answer is not &quot;fire up my IDE, get the build pipeline going, start a local dev server, ..<p>I pick my tools carefully, so that my hobby projects don&#x27;t feel like work. If I have to suffer through slow tools, then they feel like work, and then what&#x27;s the point in doing them? It&#x27;s supposed to be fun.<p>So I basically use vim and bash as the IDE and shell scripts for the build pipeline. Everything works quickly and reliably, on any machine.<p>I realize that not every project has that luxury. But for personal projects, if it requires shitty tools, I&#x27;m just not even going to bother in the first place, and then there are no bugs to fix.
awinter-pyabout 9 years ago
&gt; fire up the build pipeline<p>He&#x27;s not lying about the role of weird build pipelines in making it harder to dive into a project (though it may not be the point he intended to make). Simplicity &amp; repeatability yields surprising dividends.
rhabarbaabout 9 years ago
Empty page on my Android.
underscoremarkabout 9 years ago
A (perhaps) related discussion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=5686139" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=5686139</a>
ps4fanboyabout 9 years ago
FOSS, like paid software cant escape the economics of incentives.
tudorwabout 9 years ago
If it&#x27;s that important hire someone who can and pay them to fix it, job done, everyone happy, move on :)
homeroabout 9 years ago
Yes you&#x27;re coding
kbar13about 9 years ago
because the database is down?
boombipabout 9 years ago
I&#x27;m getting a 500 error when the page tries to load the blog. I can&#x27;t see any text at all.
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chvidabout 9 years ago
Because you have been making some silly JS-animation on your blog instead?
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sdx23about 9 years ago
Why I haven&#x27;t read your blog post yet: Won&#x27;t show anything without javascript → meh, close that tab.
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pmontraabout 9 years ago
Opera Android: empty page with blinking cursor. That could be a reason for not fixing issues, the blank page syndrome :-) but I guess there is some technical problem going on.
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ensiferumabout 9 years ago
Is it just me or is this website really buggy&#x2F;confusing. Some of the menus blog&#x2F;projects open to a blank page (with a cursor that does nothing?) and the other ones are just way to slow at producing the content... The time it takes for some page to artistically produce the readable content I&#x27;ve already clicked back button about 24 times.<p>I fail to see why this is on hacker news in the first place? Is this a demonstration of some web developers failing in new creative ways? (I saw some other interactive CV stuff that was also not only buggy but also just creative in a _bad_ way few days before...)<p>And oh yeah, if this is supposed to be some kind of &quot;recruiting&quot; tool to advocate the creator of the website in question.. If I was the recruiter, I would consider this website against him. Just my 2 € cents.
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merbabout 9 years ago
I dislike such posts.<p>Since mostly an issue is nothing but. Even if it won&#x27;t get fixed (directly).<p>Also some people in Open Source are akward. They tell me that they have limited resources in their project and they can&#x27;t fix it or won&#x27;t fix it or whatever. They don&#x27;t even think that I could try to fix my own issue. They better start a conversation that they have too less people and that this particular issue will be closed. They don&#x27;t even care if you&#x27;ve done some open source contributions already (even minor one&#x27;s) on another project &#x2F; language.<p>It&#x27;s like some people just don&#x27;t want your help, even if they told you.
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