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Oil Traders May Be the Only Ones Who Want Yahoo to Survive

149 pointsby justinvalmost 9 years ago

25 comments

sputknickalmost 9 years ago
Sounds like an opportunity for someone to buy yahoo messenger, make it work the way the oil industry wants it, and sell it to them as an industry specific chat service. No need to bring the rest of Yahoo along for the ride.
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IVDValmost 9 years ago
When an industry is so reliant on one service, it&#x27;s very difficult to shift an entire industry to a new platform. Segmentation is a real thing.<p>A good example I&#x27;m familiar with is within electronic sports (competitive video-games): almost every executive, player, personality, etc has been using Skype since ~2010. Unfortunately, Skype has a large number of security vulnerabilities and users can be subjected by DDOS attacks- which is especially important if such an attack impacts their performance in a game, or interrupts a livestream. Even though there are, arguably, better products being created that serve the same purpose as Skype and that don&#x27;t fall victim to this problem (Discord, Slack), those within the industry don&#x27;t want to segment themselves from everyone else.
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tchitraalmost 9 years ago
Doesn&#x27;t this article feel like it was written for Yahoo&#x27;s benefit? Since they have a blinded bidding process (See [1]), it seems as if this article could help drum up higher bids. Maybe Yahoo is the anonymous source that provided the &quot;hot tip&quot; about commodity traders on Yahoo Messenger.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;view&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2016-04-20&#x2F;yahoo-bids-and-stock-lending" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;view&#x2F;articles&#x2F;2016-04-20&#x2F;yahoo-bid...</a>
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smegelalmost 9 years ago
&gt; In Geneva, the epicenter of Switzerland’s $21 billion commodity-trading industry, accounting for about one-third of the world’s daily oil transactions<p>That&#x27;s pretty impressive for a country that has never even been visited by an oil tanker.
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mericalmost 9 years ago
It sounds like Yahoo has wasted one opportunity after another.<p>Yahoo clearly did not know why the oil industry is using Yahoo Messenger. Instead of doubling down and building a product for that market, they build a replacement product that&#x27;s going to be detached from the needs of its users.
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27182818284almost 9 years ago
I know someone in the oil industry and was surprised by this as well, but it is absolutely true. They really do use Yahoo a lot.<p>When I asked why they haven&#x27;t switched, I was given a response similar to what the articles says, &quot;that all regulatory and internal controls are addressed&quot;<p>I believe natural gas communication is still done by AIM a lot.
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neutralhoganalmost 9 years ago
They aren&#x27;t the only ones who want Yahoo to survive. There are tens of people at Yahoo that want them to survive, too.
javiramosalmost 9 years ago
Why didn&#x27;t Yahoo focus on further developing businesses around these services (Finance, Fantasy etc.) that people love?
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gyardleyalmost 9 years ago
Once everyone in an industry starts using a particular platform to do business, switching is very very hard.<p>The porn industry still uses ICQ.
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jcdavisalmost 9 years ago
A lot of big tech companies also use Yahoo chat. Salesforce did as late as 2012 when I left, with 1k+ people in the eng org. (No idea if they still do).<p>Seemed crazy at the same, still does now too
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tomc1985almost 9 years ago
And Yahoo Messenger is stillll waay better than Slack
DaOne256almost 9 years ago
They should start using XMPP&#x2F;Jabber. At the beginning with a Yahoo-Transport to be compatible with the people that are slower to switch:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;XMPP#Connecting_to_other_protocols" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;XMPP#Connecting_to_other_proto...</a>
havetochargealmost 9 years ago
Ironically, if all these traders paid for the app, they might not have been scrambling now to find a replacement.
poweraalmost 9 years ago
Because they use Yahoo! Messenger, not because it will impact the oil market in any other way.
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Hydraulix989almost 9 years ago
One thing Yahoo has is an excellent university recruiting program with bombastic pampering, puzzle challenges, and hackathons. Seeing what other companies also have extremely hyped up university recruitment programs, I almost treat it now as a negative signal for a company&#x27;s future success. I suppose the harder you have to try to win graduates&#x27; hearts, the less appealing you are to work for, and consequently, the worse off of a company you are going to be without the right kind of talent on staff going forward.
tim333almost 9 years ago
The oil traders could move to WhatsApp or somesuch but I&#x27;d be kind of sad if they went. The other day I was trying to get free historical stock data via an API and Yahoo Finance was about the only thing that did it ok.<p>Yahoo could assure their financial future by going massively long oil futures and then putting out false messages about Saudi Arabia having been nuked by ISIS or some such. A tad illegal perhaps but an offshoot in some ill policed part of the world could do it.
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cphooveralmost 9 years ago
Anybody want to create a chat app tailored to securities trading? Seems like there is a market demand for an unobtrusive messaging app in this space.
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Apocryphonalmost 9 years ago
Isn&#x27;t this superficially similar to the Westgroup storyline in season 2 of Halt and Catch Fire?
kchoudhualmost 9 years ago
Why the hell aren&#x27;t these chuckleheads on Bloomberg where they belong?
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pbreitalmost 9 years ago
This article seems ridiculous both because Yahoo messenger isn&#x27;t going anywhere. And if it did, moving to another service would be a small hiccup.
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zumpalmost 9 years ago
What&#x27;s the salary of the oil trader?
peterkshultzalmost 9 years ago
If Yahoo goes under, perhaps they can open-source pieces of their product line.
anonymous7777almost 9 years ago
This is insane. Why does guy who digs a hole and sell&#x27;s oil need to care about high tech?!
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draw_downalmost 9 years ago
They can afford to build a messaging tool. Come on.
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spelunkeralmost 9 years ago
This article seems to be making a mountain out of a molehill. Just use one of the competing, recordable chat services if Yahoo! Messenger disappears?
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