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Slowly Poisoned by Energy Drinks

77 pointsby burgerguygalmost 9 years ago

27 comments

rdeggesalmost 9 years ago
Ah... Fuck. I feel like this is the signal I&#x27;ve been waiting for all these years :(<p>Since 2006 (in uni), when I was first introduced to energy drinks, I&#x27;ve been more or less addicted to them ever since. I even go so far as to regulate my consumption of them in cycles to get the most I can out of it: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rdegges.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;my-use-and-abuse-of-caffeine&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rdegges.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;my-use-and-abuse-of-caffeine&#x2F;</a><p>I never really liked the taste of coffee much (without loads of cream and sugar&#x2F;splenda), so energy drinks were a happy medium because they taste really good, they come in lots of 0 sugar &#x2F; calorie varieties (which is great when you&#x27;re trying to stay in shape), and give you a LOT of caffeine per serving which makes me feel super high: happy, productive, focused.<p>Since 2006, I&#x27;ve probably had roughly 2 energy drinks per day (and over the last few years: maybe 4).<p>So... This really sucks.<p>I always &quot;felt&quot; like they were bad for me, but never really did any research as I knew it would most likely make me stop drinking them.<p>It&#x27;s surprisingly easy to convince yourself not to look into something so you can continue justifying your actions. But now, I suppose, the fun is up.<p>It&#x27;s really time I start being more careful with myself :(
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drcrossalmost 9 years ago
Did anyone think for a second that those things <i>aren&#x27;t</i> bad for you?<p>Washing down multiple cans of it per day and coupled with an unhealthy lifestyle is a guarantee to have trouble down the line.<p>I&#x27;m astonished that the author seemed to expect a different outcome.
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mbrdalmost 9 years ago
The cached version is here: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:iVkhl9bp0QgJ:yiddish.ninja&#x2F;the-hidden-cost-of-energy-drinks-they-poisoned-me&#x2F;+&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;webcache.googleusercontent.com&#x2F;search?q=cache:iVkhl9b...</a>
deelowealmost 9 years ago
The issue appears to be the 2000% DV of B6. This isn&#x27;t the first I&#x27;ve heard of this (e.g. with supplements). Most energy drinks don&#x27;t have this in them. Be careful with vitamins and minerals. More isn&#x27;t always better.
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jimrandomhalmost 9 years ago
tl;dr: &quot;5 hour energy&quot;, as well as Costco&#x27;s generic version thereof, contain a megadose of vitamin B6 which is not safe for daily consumption.<p>The lesson you should take from this is that, when taking a combination drug like an energy drink, you have to go through ingredient by ingredient checking the dosages and reading the corresponding wikipedia pages. I do consume energy drinks, but I used that procedure to reject the brand that&#x27;s reported causing a problem here.
strikingalmost 9 years ago
It&#x27;s almost like making a habit of consuming something with addictive properties is a bad idea.<p>Yeah, they&#x27;re good for helping finish a late-night essay or helping sustain your programming train of thought... but they&#x27;re not designed to be used often. Too much of anything will more often than not kill you.
pcbpcbalmost 9 years ago
Over 12 years old: drink only water, tea, coffee, beer, and single malt whiskey. Period.
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Moshe_Silnorinalmost 9 years ago
I was involved in the nootropics community for years, doing Gwen.net style double blinded assessments on various compounds. The biggest thing I&#x27;ve learned (aside from the fact that almost all nootropics are ineffective or only marginally effective, the marginally effective being the most popular: nicotine, caffeine, modafinil and amphetamines) is, if you&#x27;re using performance enhancing drugs, you have to be honest with yourself about this and be really nerdy about it. Proprietary blends and energy drinks are just bad news. I would recommend taking caffeine pills instead of energy drinks. You can easily optimize your dose and you know what your taking. You can also get a years supply of caffeine for like 20 bucks in pill form. Being honest with yourself about the fact that you don&#x27;t so much like the taste of coffee as the highly-addictive drug in it can save you a decent amount of money.<p>There&#x27;s no evidence that any of the other compounds in energy drinks beside caffeine do anything for alertness, and caffeine is a very safe drug.
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narratoralmost 9 years ago
I used to be an energy drink addict. I drank two Rockstar a day for several years. I stopped cold turkey and my skin and health in general improved. I also swore off drinking anything in an aluminum can because of the BPA lining. Larger energy drinks have the largest detectable amounts of BPA in them.[1]<p>These days I drink bulletproof coffee that I make at home and keep in a stainless steel mug. It takes a bit of getting used to, but drinking butter + mct oil+ coffee without sweeteeners is a pretty good way to start the day, IMHO. I feel much healthier because of it and love that it&#x27;s compatible with the ketogenic diet, which I have lost about 20 lbs doing.<p>[1]<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ewg.org&#x2F;enviroblog&#x2F;2009&#x2F;03&#x2F;health-canada-finds-bpa-most-soft-drinks-energy-drinks-top-list" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ewg.org&#x2F;enviroblog&#x2F;2009&#x2F;03&#x2F;health-canada-finds-bp...</a>
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merrakshalmost 9 years ago
tl;dr<p>Continued consumption of energy drinks like 5 Hour Energy &#x2F; Costco Energy Shot &#x2F; RockStar Pure Zero gave him the 2000% of the US recommended daily B6 of 2mg. Main effect: numbness in half of the body, a known side effect of B6 overdosing.
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SFJuliealmost 9 years ago
I live by my grandpa motto, everything is poison, vary them and your diet to avoid be poisoned to fast by one single source.
hipsterrificalmost 9 years ago
Thank goodness that coffee is something I actually like. I stick to no more than 4 cups a day, 5 cups if I&#x27;m feeling lucky. And by a cup, I mean an 8 oz cup (a 20oz to me is 2.5 cups of coffee).<p>When I was in college I was admitted to the ER for arrythmia. The condition was exacerbated by excess caffeine. I went from a pot of coffee a day to 3 cups a day for years, this included exercise and meditation. I refuse to touch energy drinks; while it gives me a shot of energy, prolonged use has consequences like my visit to the ER due to excessive coffee intake. I&#x27;d rather focus on getting the correct amount of sleep and taking regular breaks to recoup my energy rather than relying on coffee to feel awake.
6t6t6t6almost 9 years ago
I will never understand people who take drugs for working. Drugs are supposed to be for fun!
anfalmost 9 years ago
For B6, 46mg by 10am isn&#x27;t very much. Most B6 supplements come in 100mg capsules.<p><i>The FNB noted that although several reports show sensory neuropathy occurring at doses lower than 500 mg&#x2F;day, studies in patients treated with vitamin B6 (average dose of 200 mg&#x2F;day) for up to 5 years found no evidence of this effect. Based on limitations in the data on potential harms from long-term use, the FNB halved the dose used in these studies to establish a UL of 100 mg&#x2F;day for adults.</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ods.od.nih.gov&#x2F;factsheets&#x2F;VitaminB6-HealthProfessional&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ods.od.nih.gov&#x2F;factsheets&#x2F;VitaminB6-HealthProfession...</a>
zizzlesalmost 9 years ago
If anybody needed an article or a news report to realize that an energy drink is far from &quot;healthy&quot; then I pity them.<p>Just take a quick glance at the ingredient list: Sugar. Caffeine. High-fructose corn syrup.<p>This is the case with most off the shelf beverages and processed foods. Remember: The majority of manufacturers do not care about your well-being or health. Toxic ingredients are so abundant, that eating &quot;healthy&quot; in the 21st century is a massive under-taking. Green tea might be a better and somewhat healthier substitute to any energy drink addicts that are reading this.
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VLMalmost 9 years ago
TLDR OP overdosed on B6.<p>Sometimes I drink the Runa energy drinks and I can verify they have no supplemental B6. I can also verify they taste really bizarre and many people cannot stomach them. Ironically the only thing making the taste of &quot;regular energy drinks&quot; drinkable is weird artificial flavorings and tons of syrupy carbs. Its not as weird tasting as some liquors, someone who can stomach a shot of scotch will probably be fine with a Runa. They taste like strong green tea mixed with a paint store, if that makes any sense.<p>I was mystified by the claims of poisoning because the dose where people start getting sick according to the medical data I found is about 5000% of the RDA. Only two documented cases in the whole world have resulted in problems at or below 5000% of the RDA. OP is something of a medical miracle to have been the third person on the planet to get symptoms below 5000%. I suppose somebody has to be the unlucky one. More than 50000% of RDA, about 10 times higher, is generally medically recognized as being unsafe for people in general. The ED&#x2F;LD ratio for B6 is pretty safe compared to aspirin or tylenol or alcohol for that matter.<p>From wikipedia &quot;For vitamin B6 labeling purposes 100% of the Daily Value is 2.0 mg.&quot;<p>The guy blames his rockstar drink, his 5 hour energy shot, and his supplements equally, but I checked online and the rockstar he&#x27;s blaming is only 100% of the RDA (which is none the less a bit high) but the &quot;Kirkland energy shot&quot; is marked as 40 mg of B6 which is about 2000% of his RDA! That is a WTF product right there.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.caffeineinformer.com&#x2F;caffeine-content&#x2F;kirkland-energy-shot" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.caffeineinformer.com&#x2F;caffeine-content&#x2F;kirkland-en...</a><p>Doing some math his unnamed OTC vitamin supplement is providing 4 mg or 200% of the RDA. Which is also unreasonably high, although not dangerously so.<p>I would say the title is very misleading as many (most?) energy drinks don&#x27;t have near toxic levels of B6. One very specific generic copy of a brand does have a level that sickens people at a rate of 0.5 parts per billion but its still only about a tenth of what most medical professionals think would sicken most people.
Theodoresalmost 9 years ago
What is funny is that energy drinks can be zero calories - no energy!
joshmandersalmost 9 years ago
I still consume energy drinks, right now I am drinking a rip it sugar free zero carb&#x2F;calorie energy drink with 120% vitamin C, 100% vitamin B6 and 170% vitamin B12. Sure I can probably skip this and slug through the day, but I find it&#x27;s a good balance for me, other than this all I drink is water and I only have a single serving a day.
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jinushaunalmost 9 years ago
Yup. Guessed it was B vitamins before reading through the entire article. As always, too much of a good thing. Most energy drinks contain a ton of B12 and B6—and I&#x27;ve suspected for a long time is actually more responsible for the feeling of energy from these drinks than caffeine or taurine.
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semisightalmost 9 years ago
Well this strikes close to home. During grad school, I&#x27;d drink a red bull (or two) a day. Now, I&#x27;ve quit caffeine completely (save a tiny cup of coffee in the morning occasionally).<p>I hope the author has a quick and easy recovery.
RogtamBaralmost 9 years ago
My solution to getting enough caffeine: a 50 cent 100 gramm bag of roasted robusta beans.<p>They also taste pretty nice, if you eat them singly. Much better than any coffee that can be brewed from such..
Klunyalmost 9 years ago
Really?? It takes a trip to the hospital with paralysis before you notice that shit is poison? The heart palpitations and industrial aftertaste didn&#x27;t give you any hints?
JustSomeNobodyalmost 9 years ago
Actually, you poisoned yourself. You payed <i>little to no</i> attention to what you were consuming.
rosseralmost 9 years ago
Wait, are we supposed to be <i>surprised</i> by this?
arcticfoxalmost 9 years ago
Is there a mirror or tl;dr? Looks like it got taken down by traffic.
oscartegalmost 9 years ago
Database error.... really
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draw_downalmost 9 years ago
I find that those energy shots really help if you need to stay up for a party, etc. But taking them every day, that&#x27;s nuts.
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