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Why are your friends more popular than you? (2013)

120 pointsby mirajalmost 9 years ago

16 comments

netcanalmost 9 years ago
Related effect observed by J Spolsky here: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.joelonsoftware.com&#x2F;items&#x2F;2005&#x2F;01&#x2F;27.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.joelonsoftware.com&#x2F;items&#x2F;2005&#x2F;01&#x2F;27.html</a><p>Tldr: everyone thinks they hire the top 1% of applicants because some applicants spam hundreds of jobs (and never get hired) while others (typically the better ones) apply for very few and get hired immediately. Your 99% rejected pile is the same as other employers&#x27; while your 1% accepted pile is unique to you.<p>A more entertaining (and oddly intuitive) variant is the slut paradox: your average partner has been more promiscuous than you.
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yomlyalmost 9 years ago
Because my friends code in python and JavaScript whilst I code in lisp and try to get everyone to convert to functional programming?
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jastralmost 9 years ago
Reminds me of the surveys that found that men have more partners on average than women. Mathematicians then jump in and show that&#x27;s not mathematically possible.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2007&#x2F;08&#x2F;12&#x2F;weekinreview&#x2F;12kolata.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2007&#x2F;08&#x2F;12&#x2F;weekinreview&#x2F;12kolata.html</a>
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eloisantalmost 9 years ago
tl;dr<p>people with many friends are overrepresented in social networks (because many people have them as friends) so people who are friends with you have more friends than the average.<p>In other words, everyone is friend with Tom from MySpace so you have a hugely popular friend, but you don&#x27;t know any loner with no friend (because they&#x27;re not your friend).
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ysaviralmost 9 years ago
Lesson learned: When you set up the equation&#x27;s terms to get the most dramatic results, you get dramatic results.
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JoeAltmaieralmost 9 years ago
Same reason all the other lines at the supermarket go faster than the one you&#x27;re in?
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rdlecler1almost 9 years ago
&gt; &quot;Remarkably, the friends became ill about two weeks before the random undergraduates, probably because they were, on average, better connected. With the world only imperfectly prepared for a pandemic, being able to spot trends in this way could be useful.&quot;<p>Isn&#x27;t this just because you have a larger sample (N people * Y friends) than if you are looking at just N people? In which case it&#x27;s more likely that one&#x27;s friends will get sick before the randomly selected person. If so what&#x27;s suprising about that?<p>Does anyone have a link to the original paper?
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z3t4almost 9 years ago
When you introduce two people to each other, your own network <i>page-rank</i> increases as both of them get one extra connection.
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mschwaigalmost 9 years ago
There is also a Number Hub video where Hannah Fry talks about this exact phenomenon. This also gets into applications of this result to limiting the spread of diseases.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;Z_15zbgNpHk" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;youtu.be&#x2F;Z_15zbgNpHk</a>
pathikritalmost 9 years ago
Basically in a social graph, you are more likely to be in the edge (because there are more vertices in the edge) than in the center (visualize how in a balanced binary tree there are more leaf nodes than inner vertices).
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kronalmost 9 years ago
People&#x27;s social connections are far more concentrated than they seem. Someone that appears to have a great life often is as bored as anyone else.<p>Aside from club promoters, most people&#x27;s social circle is small. Even rich people who&#x27;d you think would be happy, often have mostly transactional unfulfilling relationships.<p>Your job, by far, determines your social circle. And if you happen to work in tech, you likely know a far greater number of intelligence and nice people vs some trendy scene of high finance or entertainment.
davidgrenieralmost 9 years ago
Saw the title, asked my boss: &quot;Why are my friends more popular than me?&quot;.<p>The cold hard truth came back quickly: &quot;Cause&#x27; you&#x27;re not very social&quot;.<p>Here&#x27;s your tl;dr.
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shaealmost 9 years ago
Isn&#x27;t this obvious because if you are friends with someone, it&#x27;s likely they have more friends? A friends graph would end up with many branches and just a few roots, right?
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dredmorbiusalmost 9 years ago
Sampling bias, or rather, experience&#x2F;observer bias, is another aspect of this.<p>In 2015 I explored the question of how much user activity there was on Google+. My initial approach was to look at the <i>public posting</i> activity (which is most visible), but a criticism was that there might be some massive amount of <i>private</i> sharing going on (apparently by accounts which had never posted publicly). I did a follow-up analysis looking at the listed <i>followers</i> (&quot;friends&quot; in FB parlance) of publicly inactive and publicly active profiles.<p><i>The most overwhelming impression was how many profiles -- publicly active or otherwise, had a shockingly small number of followers.</i><p>The <i>median</i> for publicly inactive profiles: 2. For publicly active ones: 5.<p>The 95%ile: 33.5 for inactives, 69 for actives.<p>This jarred with the experiences of those I was hearing criticism from <i>simply because they were, virtually by definition, extreme outliers.</i><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ello.co&#x2F;dredmorbius&#x2F;post&#x2F;naya9wqdemiovuvwvoyquq" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ello.co&#x2F;dredmorbius&#x2F;post&#x2F;naya9wqdemiovuvwvoyquq</a><p>Public vs. non-publicly posting profiles summary data<p>Publicly Inactive<p>Followers:<p>n: 88, sum: 561, min: 1, max: 53, mean: 6.375000, median: 2, sd: 10.953730<p>%-ile: 5: 1, 10: 1, 15: 1, 20: 1, 25: 1, 30: 1, 35: 1, 40: 2, 45: 2, 55: 2, 60: 3, 65: 4, 70: 4.5, 75: 6.5, 80: 7, 85: 10, 90: 19.5, 95: 33.5<p>Views:<p>n: 88, sum: 638656, min: 265, max: 119442, mean: 7257.454545, median: 1012.5, sd: 17720.702361<p>%-ile: 5: 298.5, 10: 335, 15: 368.5, 20: 408.5, 25: 477.5, 30: 503, 35: 570.5, 40: 689, 45: 912, 55: 1211, 60: 1340, 65: 2027.5, 70: 2824.5, 75: 5245, 80: 7893.5, 85: 12777.5, 90: 21663, 95: 48144.5<p>Publicly Active<p>Followers:<p>n: 1890, sum: 125539, min: 1, max: 67855, mean: 66.422751, median: 5, sd: 1579.404405<p>%-ile: 5: 1, 10: 1, 15: 1, 20: 1, 25: 2, 30: 2, 35: 2, 40: 3, 45: 4, 55: 6, 60: 7, 65: 8, 70: 10, 75: 13, 80: 18, 85: 24, 90: 34, 95: 69<p>Views:<p>n: 1890, sum: 66647773, min: 252, max: 21088213, mean: 35263.371958, median: 3419.5, sd: 522757.797486<p>%-ile: 5: 576.5, 10: 855.5, 15: 1076, 20: 1311, 25: 1566.5, 30: 1847.5, 35: 2153.5, 40: 2518, 45: 2947, 55: 4045, 60: 4890, 65: 5982.5, 70: 7645, 75: 10157, 80: 13468, 85: 18576, 90: 27814.5, 95: 54290<p>More: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;plus.google.com&#x2F;u&#x2F;0&#x2F;104092656004159577193&#x2F;posts&#x2F;RhnKkfTNPKR" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;plus.google.com&#x2F;u&#x2F;0&#x2F;104092656004159577193&#x2F;posts&#x2F;RhnK...</a>
300bpsalmost 9 years ago
From 2013 behind a paywall.
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mhurronalmost 9 years ago
What friends?