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Why we won't be selling Genuino or Arduino any more

382 pointsby whiskersalmost 9 years ago

24 comments

nathancahillalmost 9 years ago
Serious question: what are people building with these boards? The recurring projects I've seen are controlling lights, doors/locks and monitoring water in plants. I don't find these particularly compelling, am I missing something? How is this the next big thing?
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chappi42almost 9 years ago
If this [untold Arduino history](<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arduinohistory.github.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arduinohistory.github.io&#x2F;</a>) link is true, it seems like Massimo Banzi is not only difficult to do business with but that he had a very particular way to give credit.<p>Better buy clones...
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snarfyalmost 9 years ago
The whole thing is a sham really when you consider the heritage from the Wiring&#x2F;Processing.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Wiring_(development_platform)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Wiring_(development_platform)</a><p>Arduino is a commercial version of somebody else&#x27;s academic work.
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rocky1138almost 9 years ago
This is what happens when a company crosses the line from being a small, hacky, indie, startup shop to a corporation.<p>It&#x27;s a line that can only be seen after you cross it, making it especially onerous.
SEJeffalmost 9 years ago
I really don&#x27;t see the point of the arduinos when you can buy an esp8266 that is arduino compatible (you can use the arduino IDE and sketches).<p>You can get the bare esp8266 chips for $1-$2 from aliexpress, or buy a tricked out one from adafruit (the huzzah) for $9. They have a full wifi stack, support micropython, etc.<p>I think we&#x27;re in a post-arduino age for microcontrollers. There are simply better options out there, of which the esp8266 is just one of the current better choices.
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rootbearalmost 9 years ago
The local Microcenter sells Arduino Uno R3 clones under their Inland store brand for $10, currently and frequently on sale for $6. Ideally, I&#x27;d like to support Arduino LLC, but given how absurd this whole feud has been, I don&#x27;t feel especially guilty when I buy a clone. I have bought a few Arduino brand 101 boards from Microcenter as well so I&#x27;m not a total sell out!
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jklinger410almost 9 years ago
TLDR: Reseller is pissed that &quot;Genuino&quot; has to be sold as &quot;Arduino&quot; in the US and that they have separate SKUs. Also Genuino seems to have poor B2B&#x2F;reseller support.<p>Is this post really that petty or am I missing something?
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herbstalmost 9 years ago
Cool. Now i can buy the cheap offbrand clones from Aliexpress without thinking i should have supported the actual creators.
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antoniuschan99almost 9 years ago
So basically the Arduino the Software Company (IDE), and Arduino the hardware supplier broke ties?<p>I use the ESP8266 which I do believe is an Arduino (Hardware) Killer. However, the Arduino IDE has amazing support for the ESP8266 among other hardware components.<p>This isn&#x27;t a bad thing, at least for consumers, since I feel like Arduino (the hardware) is a few cycles behind (eg. Particle, CHIP, bbc micro, pi zero, nodemcu&#x2F;esp8266... etc)
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Marazanalmost 9 years ago
My conclusion in all of this is to buy Teensy instead. Lovely thing.
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triplesecalmost 9 years ago
It appears that greed and control issues were present right from the beginning of the Arduino project, given the experiences of Wiring&#x27;s developer, Hernando Barragan, upon whose work it seems most of Arduino was branded, without recognition or recompense. I therefore would have very little sympathy for Arduino LLC.<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arduinohistory.github.io&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;arduinohistory.github.io&#x2F;</a> and HN: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11212021" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11212021</a>
crumpledalmost 9 years ago
This article acknowledges over and over that Arduino&#x2F;Genuino is following common business practices. They are complaining that arduino has become too big, and it&#x27;s not nice for them, because pomoroni is also big. Kind of ironic, really.<p>Yes, they want to cultivate a new brand while defending the old brand. It&#x27;s awkward and I&#x27;m sure they aren&#x27;t happy about it either.
falcolasalmost 9 years ago
Dear Pimoroni,<p>Please add a link to your store from your blog.<p>Sincerely, everyone who might actually want to buy from you.
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emptybitsalmost 9 years ago
So... asking on behalf of a friend ;-)... my local dealer stocks both Arduino and Genuino brand boards. Is this unusual or about to change?<p>I feel like a curtain of innocence has been torn away for me. Ignorance of the politics in the Arduino scene was bliss.
qz_almost 9 years ago
I have a Teensy board, which is much cheaper and works pretty much exactly the same as Arduino and Genuino. The Teensy LC is great for small projects and is about 15 bucks IIRC. Never understood why you would stick to a more expensive brand just because of the name.
markhahnalmost 9 years ago
Good response, and indeed the &quot;maker vibe&quot; seems to have been poisoned by commercial concerns...<p>Real makers tend to buy unbranded stuff from Chinese free-shipping places anyway. Branded Arduino is mostly a historic artifact...
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rplntalmost 9 years ago
&gt; Everyone sells worldwide now.<p>Yeah.. no. Not even close.
nfriedlyalmost 9 years ago
As far as cheap Arduino clones go, I&#x27;ve been pretty happy with the EDArduino ones from Electrodragon: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.electrodragon.com&#x2F;product-category&#x2F;arduino-2&#x2F;arduino-main&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.electrodragon.com&#x2F;product-category&#x2F;arduino-2&#x2F;ardu...</a>
erichoceanalmost 9 years ago
Anyone know of any small, low-cost, battery powered programmable boards for Bluetooth LE? I&#x27;ve got the Pi 3 and CHIP is ordered, but I&#x27;d love something smaller if possible. Thanks!
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dotBenalmost 9 years ago
It&#x27;s really not that unusual for resellers to be given geographical territories within which they can&#x2F;can&#x27;t sell. Try looking up your favorite electronics on Amazon.com and see if they will ship to Europe - most times the page will say &#x27;for US delivery only&#x27;.<p>It is a shame that the Arduino guys split up but I would argue the situation would be even more of a mess if both new companies were able to sell into the same territories with the same name + similar product.
st3v3ralmost 9 years ago
I&#x27;m sorry, but I don&#x27;t buy it. Other stores, like Sparkfun, are quite able to do this.
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xchipalmost 9 years ago
Why do you want an Arduino when the ESP8266 is half the price and has WIFI?
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dingo_batalmost 9 years ago
Bah! Arduino is way overpriced for the specs anyway. Raspberry pi and others are where it&#x27;s at now. But I do think there is a massive power usage difference.
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_pmf_almost 9 years ago
&gt; It&#x27;s a real shame that Arduino LLC seem to have lost any of the Maker-vibe it had<p>What &quot;vibe&quot; would that be? Supply shortage with undependable lead time? Having to piece together documentation from malware infected wikis that may or may not still exist 10 days from now?
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