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A New Wireless Hack Can Unlock 100M Volkswagens

113 pointsby craigjbalmost 9 years ago

9 comments

adrianNalmost 9 years ago
Big hardware companies like VW seem to still focus on &quot;security by obscurity&quot;, because they&#x27;re not used to a connected world with plenty of attackers with lots of free time on their hands.<p>I&#x27;m quite worried about the future of networked cars.
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bArrayalmost 9 years ago
Would just like to add that some of the security issues are to do with limitations set by governments. I think China and the US in particular insist on crappy security and it&#x27;s cost effective to simply apply that everywhere else. Forbid anyone have something a government can&#x27;t pry into...<p>I think for car manufacturers, they are limited to 128 bit encryption and cars only have to stand up to about 15 minutes of hacking - that last one isn&#x27;t particularly well defined either.
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mrbalmost 9 years ago
Direct link to research paper: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.usenix.org&#x2F;system&#x2F;files&#x2F;conference&#x2F;usenixsecurity16&#x2F;sec16_paper_garcia.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.usenix.org&#x2F;system&#x2F;files&#x2F;conference&#x2F;usenixsecurit...</a> Basically VW use the same secret keys to authenticate wireless comms across millions of cars. They change the key every few years (new car platforms, etc).
jacobsenscottalmost 9 years ago
A legit service would be to replace lost keys for a few bucks rather than the $100&#x27;s a dealer charges for one key.
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helthanatosalmost 9 years ago
Silly silly car manufactures that leave the car systems vulnerable in almost every way because they can&#x27;t think far enough ahead to actually be secure before having &quot;cool&quot; things like button less key fobs and button starts. Seriously... Why do so many people not care about security?
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dingo_batalmost 9 years ago
So how do you make something secure when attackers have physical access for hours? I think cars cannot be perfectly secure like we expect computers to be purely because we don&#x27;t leave our computers unattended for hours in public.
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kowdermeisteralmost 9 years ago
Thank you Volkswagen, technology, hackers, crackers and everybody involved that I can read titles like this that would totally fit into a 1999 sci-fi movie about the near future :)
wckronholmalmost 9 years ago
These security issues are not exclusive to computer systems in cars. A valet recently used my physical car key to unlock a different car. (Same make, different model.) He only realized he was in the wrong car when the ignition wouldn&#x27;t turn.
akerroalmost 9 years ago
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