<i>> I remember reading Robert Scoble talked about you, guys, like he invented it himself, like SmugMug was his baby.</i><p>Scoble does that shit with everything -- see how ridiculous he got with FriendFeed (and how much of an ass he made out of himself at Startup School)
The story of getting Next ported to Intel, and it made the difference in Apple buying Next instead of BeOS, was great.<p>The behind the scene handling of Steve Jobs is classic "managing up."
Please everybody, listen the whole way through. The Steve stories are in the first have of the interview. And they're pretty juicy (maybe just because we've never heard them before, unlike lots of other Steve legend?).<p>You may be tempted to stop the interview after that.
But Chris is an amazing and admirable entrepreneur AND person. He shares some really moving stuff about his background that makes all of the Steve stuff fall away.
If you are down and need inspiration <i>now</i>, listen to this.<p>Chris, if you are reading this, thanks for sharing. Amazing, amazing, amazing.<p>Andrew, the best so far.
Now this is what a real interview should be like. I really need to tip my hat to Andrew for probing with some uncomfortable questions and applaud Chris for answering them. Usually you just hear someone speak about what they do; It is not often you get to hear someone speak about who they are and how they got to be that way.
Great interview, filled with interesting stories - well worth checking out just for the Steve Job stories.<p>PS: And thanks Andrew, for steering away from linkbait titles.