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Microsoft Pix

514 pointsby plurbyover 8 years ago

49 comments

dansoover 8 years ago
There&#x27;s an interesting example they use to show the ostensible improvement of Pix over the Apple&#x27;s Live Photo:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;research&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2016&#x2F;07&#x2F;Live-Photo.mp4" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;research&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;...</a><p>The Pix-enhanced version:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;research&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;2016&#x2F;07&#x2F;Live-Image.mp4" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;research&#x2F;wp-content&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;...</a><p>Sure, the Live Photo version has distracting movement, but it also has much more natural motion in terms of hair flow. And I feel that the camera instability helps give context to the video, that it&#x27;s some kind of impromptu selfie on a windy day.<p>The Pix version offers a clearer image at what I feel is a large cost to the image&#x27;s integrity. It looks a bit creepy. That said, there are probably lots of good situations for Pix&#x27;s stabilization tech, but that example didn&#x27;t seem optimal as a landing page demo.
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Analemma_over 8 years ago
This feels sort of redundant... that feature list (multiple face detection with auto exposure&#x2F;white balance, burst mode with an algorithm to guess which one is &quot;best&quot;) is all stuff the built-in camera app on iOS does already.<p>Okay, the color and white balance look a little better for Pix in the example shots, but everyone&#x27;s RAW processing is better in some situations and worse in others. I&#x27;m sure Apple could come back with just as many example shots where their own settings were better than Pix&#x27;s, and we could go round and round like that forever.<p>There&#x27;s nothing wrong with this app, but I&#x27;m having trouble understanding why it exists. What does this do for users or Microsoft?
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ksmlover 8 years ago
Ooh, they mention it includes Hyperlapse! I haven&#x27;t looked into Pix too much so I don&#x27;t know if this is a full implementation (someone commented on an unnatural-looking stabilization demo, but I think it was just a poor choice of an example), but Hyperlapse is one of the coolest research projects I&#x27;ve come across:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;research.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;um&#x2F;redmond&#x2F;projects&#x2F;hyperlapse&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;research.microsoft.com&#x2F;en-us&#x2F;um&#x2F;redmond&#x2F;projects&#x2F;hype...</a><p>The video demo there is worth checking out.
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mattnewtonover 8 years ago
My untrained eye can&#x27;t really notice a difference except that the pix version looks brighter (even washed out), the live photo version looks really uncanny valley (where the faces don&#x27;t move but the world does around them is an unsettling effect).
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mspixover 8 years ago
We&#x27;re from the Microsoft Pix team, and we are interested in your feedback. Happy to answer questions.
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drinchevover 8 years ago
I&#x27;m amazed how low-quality this MS landing page is.<p>- The &quot;How it works&quot; tab is just a huge image.<p>- The search box ( top right ) has some problems with the border. Both in Chrome &amp; Safari.<p>- It uses `font-family: &#x27;Segoe UI&#x27;;`, which makes all elements with that font on my Mac &quot;serif&quot;
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tgaover 8 years ago
I&#x27;d like one point clarified: is this app entirely local or does it make use of any kind of cloud backend?<p>I&#x27;ve already seen apps that upload photos away for processing without making it obvious (for example <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;prisma-ai.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;prisma-ai.com</a>, if I&#x27;m not mistaken). I really shouldn&#x27;t have to ask if only iOS had a permission for network access.
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trzeciover 8 years ago
I thought that they released new version of DirectX SDK and PIX for debugging :( <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tomtech999.files.wordpress.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;02&#x2F;pix_intro.png" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;tomtech999.files.wordpress.com&#x2F;2011&#x2F;02&#x2F;pix_intro.png</a>
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notyourworkover 8 years ago
Does anyone else think of Harry Potter when looking at the last section, Live Image&#x2F;Live Photo?
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mtgxover 8 years ago
&gt; Better mobile photos are just a tap away. Enter your mobile phone number and we&#x27;ll text you a link to download Microsoft Pix.<p>Stop teaching people to click on links from SMS texts damn it!
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therealmarvover 8 years ago
The results remind me of older special effects or manual brushing in Photoshop... they are not very natural and not very good. Beeing myself also a photographer: Don&#x27;t do this to your photos. The best A.I. and filters cannot compensate a well lighted photo. I&#x27;m happy that Apple does not include such destructive filtering. IMHO even a flash from your phone is better than this filters.
donatjover 8 years ago
I wonder if there is a plan for an Android version. I&#x27;d love to play with this.
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IgorPartolaover 8 years ago
I have been using Pix for a few weeks now and am very happy with the quality. Too bad you can&#x27;t use it as the default camera app on iOS. Also it takes significantly longer to start up. But if you are taking multiple shots of, say, your kids, the quality is better.
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cmiller1over 8 years ago
Only for iOS? Surprised they didn&#x27;t make a version for windows phone... or is this software already built into the camera functionality on WP?
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nellover 8 years ago
To anyone on the Pix team reading this:<p>In the section under &quot;Hover Zoom Comparison&quot;, the Apple Camera photo is to the left of the Pix photo. In every other comparison, the Pix photo comes first. You should maintain that order because people don&#x27;t read the title always and could confuse them. Once you&#x27;ve established a pattern, such as Pix on the left and Apple&#x27;s on the right, don&#x27;t change it. It&#x27;s an inconvenience that the user doesn&#x27;t mention but feels. Also, a consistent pattern takes a less cognitive load.<p>You can call it nitpick or details :)
ebbvover 8 years ago
The Pix images just look mostly like the contrast was reduced and all the dark pixels were made brighter. That&#x27;s not improving the images in my mind, it&#x27;s just throwing away color depth and subtlety.
muzsterover 8 years ago
Sorry for my naivety and maybe a little off topic - but where are the raw image files used in the comparison images ?<p>I&#x27;m sure someone is going to cry foul if the images have been passed through Photoshop.
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usaphpover 8 years ago
I wonder who is responsible for their site design at Microsoft, their whole website looks very unpolished and quickly made, especially typography.
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suyashover 8 years ago
Apple Camera picture and video quality looks more real than Microsoft&#x27;s. It seems like this app artificially list up the image.
xsover 8 years ago
Does it automatically take horizontal video when you are holding your camera vertically? When will we get that technology?
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davebltover 8 years ago
@mspix Looking forward to using it (Samsung S5). I hit the Send button and noticed some questionable grammar. It reads &quot;Message has been send successfully on your mobile number.&quot; I guess it should be &quot;A message has been sent successfully to your mobile number.&quot; or something similar.
xd1936over 8 years ago
Does this have Photosynth built-in? :P
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pjdorrellover 8 years ago
This is a bit like the beat &quot;quantization&quot; options in music apps, where you tidy up the raw user input. The best result comes when you choose not 100% quantized.<p>The Pix app needs a slider so you can choose how much stabilisation you want on the target part of the image.
DominikRover 8 years ago
To be honest the only difference that I see is that the Microsoft Pix images seem to be brighter and with less contrast.<p>Maybe this is an amazing app full of amazing technology but the sample images that should advertise this were picked badly.
kevinliangover 8 years ago
am i the only one who thinks the iphone 6s images look better?
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deviate_Xover 8 years ago
The still picture faces look better with Pix ...<p>They are using face-tracking and stabilisation around the faces in the videos which look&#x27;s odd to most people because we definitely are not used to seeing this and probably disturbs our brain neurons which have not evolved in any way to compute this..<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=-3KvI4yDAwM" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=-3KvI4yDAwM</a>
kriroover 8 years ago
I know very little about photography. Why do I want such an app. I point and shoot with my S7 Edge and get decent enough pictures. Am I simply not the target audience? I&#x27;m also naively assuming that if I don&#x27;t particularly like the photo I could do some post processing on it and would rather have the &quot;raw&quot; version.<p>[also there is pretty much no left margin on the website, Firefox latest on OSX latest]
angersockover 8 years ago
So, anybody else notice the somewhat limited skin palette they seem to be working on?<p>I&#x27;d be very curious what it does with really dark skin.
btymover 8 years ago
Neat, I was just thinking to myself how much I wanted an app that would automatically wash out all my photos for me.
rplntover 8 years ago
Slightly off-topic, but this reminds me of Google Camera with the Lens Blur (IIRC) feature. I can&#x27;t find it on the play store now, was it discontinued? I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised given it&#x27;s Google, but why don&#x27;t just leave the old version there with some sort of warning?
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iraldirover 8 years ago
Very cool. Just did a few shots to try it out and the results are definetely nice. Love the smart live picture, and I don&#x27;t know if it&#x27;s in my head are real but it feels like it is doing a field of depth if the situation call for one, which is really nice
metaphoricalover 8 years ago
Everything looks perfect. Every face looks plastic.<p>I think I prefer the imperfect photos. But that&#x27;s just me.
grumblestumbleover 8 years ago
Ah, Microsoft. Will they ever figure out that the Microsoft name is a liability for consumer app adoption? There&#x27;s a reason it&#x27;s not called &quot;Facebook Instagram&quot;, and Facebook, deservedly or not, still has a much less tarnished image than MS.
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gambitingover 8 years ago
Uhmmmm, is Microsoft unaware, that they already have a product call PIX? It&#x27;s profiler used for DX programming and for X1. So now when you look for some PIX debugging tips on google, you will get results about the photo app.
frikover 8 years ago
The camera features are based on technology developed for MS Photosynth (also from Research department, former Live Labs), and originated from research projects from University of Washington.
thatgerhardover 8 years ago
I understand the branding department wanted to have their say, but I think it will be better as just &quot;Pix&quot; and nor &quot;Microsoft Pix&quot; (meh)
MaulingMonkeyover 8 years ago
And here I assumed this was about PIX (the DirectX SDK tool.)
Osirisover 8 years ago
Only for iOS?
andyflemingover 8 years ago
The comparisons up top basically look like HDR for faces™.
senthil_rajasekover 8 years ago
Great demo page.<p>I really love the &quot;People-Centric&quot; feature, especially how the demo shows after shot enhancements for a variety of skin tones.<p>Thank you Microsoft.
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vadym909over 8 years ago
I wish they would create a simple and fast basic photo editor for the PC first. Their current Photo takes 5-7 secs to open a photo.
vbaover 8 years ago
Looks like they were testing it when they got burgers at Feed Co in Redmond. I would of got the halloumi cheese grits
milesfover 8 years ago
Did they buy this from some other company and then rebrand it?
gisenbergover 8 years ago
Insane. That page loads in 111 network requests totaling about 40MB.
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tomc1985over 8 years ago
Another photography app?<p><i>le sigh</i>
faneover 8 years ago
Will there be an app for windows phone or does microsoft support only iOS?
fane89over 8 years ago
Will there be an app for windows phone or does microsoft support only iOS?
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ecabukover 8 years ago
Why microsoft developing an Iphone app?
usaphpover 8 years ago
What do they mean by &quot;Apple camera&quot;? Is that camera in macbook, iphone 3g, iphone 7?
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