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Distressed ravens show empathy

76 pointsby ogigover 8 years ago

4 comments

jameslkover 8 years ago
I have a strange love for birds. People often laugh at the endearment I have for birds like they have for dogs or cats. But when asked why I like birds so much, I can answer this very succinctly: there is very few other species that can fly, walk or swim all at once like some birds can. Nor a group of species so diverse, colorful, capable and intelligent. With such an interesting evolution sharing an ancestry with the once terrifying dinosaurs that roamed the world now so commonplace and taken for granted.<p>Just the intelligence of birds alone is fascinating with birds that can learn human speech and understand its context, solve puzzles, solve puzzles in teams, understand the concept of self, learn human faces, give gifts, have theory of mind, perform ritual and now show empathy. All packed into a tiny &quot;bird brain.&quot; They are truly marvelous creatures.
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mirimirover 8 years ago
Corvids are bloody amazing. Arguably, they also have language.[0] Nightingales too.[1] But bird languages are very different from mammalian ones. Maybe more like neuronal activity directly mapped to sound.<p>[0] Mates (2016) Locally Periodic Signal Estimation and Pitch Detection, and Acoustic Communication in American and Northwestern Crows (PhD thesis) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dlib.lib.washington.edu&#x2F;researchworks&#x2F;handle&#x2F;1773&#x2F;35633" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dlib.lib.washington.edu&#x2F;researchworks&#x2F;handle&#x2F;1773&#x2F;35...</a><p>[1] Weiss et al. (2014) The use of network analysis to study complex animal communication systems: a study on nightingale song <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;281&#x2F;1785&#x2F;20140460" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org&#x2F;content&#x2F;281&#x2F;1785&#x2F;2014...</a>
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anotherhackerover 8 years ago
This is compassion &#x2F; responsiveness, not empathy.<p>Empathy = mental simulating of how an action will affect another.<p>Compassion = a desire to help another.<p>Responsiveness = the ability to recognize changes in someone&#x27;s emotional state, and then develop and engage in a course of action based upon that change.<p>More info: Heinz Kohut - Reflections on Empathy <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ZQ6Y3hoKI8U" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ZQ6Y3hoKI8U</a>
hellofunkover 8 years ago
I strongly recommend the book Ravens in Winter for anyone interested in this topic.