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Why I’m Investing $500M in Migrants

67 pointsby magsafeover 8 years ago

15 comments

gregn610over 8 years ago
<a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.zerohedge.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2016-08-16&#x2F;soros-hack-reveals-plot-behind-europes-refugee-crisis-media-funding-and-manipulation?page=2" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.zerohedge.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;2016-08-16&#x2F;soros-hack-reveals-...</a>
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Inconelover 8 years ago
At the risk of sounding overly cynical, while it&#x27;s great that Mr. Soros is donating this money to a worthy cause, I wonder if, as long as he&#x27;s feeling charitable, he might also be willing to stop domiciling his investment vehicles in jurisdictions known for supporting tax evasion&#x2F;avoidance. Perhaps with the increased tax revenue, governments could afford to better shoulder the costs of adequately integrating migrants and refugees without the assistance of billionaires.
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phs318uover 8 years ago
On a slight tangent here...<p>I&#x27;ve always thought one of the biggest problems with globalisation as a concept is the absence of free movement of people.<p>What <i>I</i> mean by that is the ability of people anywhere to move anywhere else, to work, consume, pay tax, and otherwise take part in civic life, for as long as they wish.<p>We have free movement of capital and free movement of goods. However the limitation on movement of labour has turned some parts of the planet into labour ghettos, creating forced economic gradients that benefit a few. While this has been the case for some time, the free movement of information has informed even the most ignorant that this need not be the case.<p>The so-called &quot;economic&quot; migration sweeping the world is the inevitable result of this state of affairs. Its not just information that wants to be free.<p>I find it hard to see how one could be a true believer in the power for good of the free market, without including free movement of labour.<p>If you follow the thought experiment of what such free movement would look like, you could imagine the end state being an effective equalisation across most of the globe. The net effect would also be an acceleration of cultural equalisation (religious extremists notwithstanding).<p>Of course, the journey from here to there would be interesting!
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zorkedover 8 years ago
This discussion if quickly being flooded with right-wing extremists. If you make a claim, please, provide a reputable source. If you see a claim being made without a source, do something for the intellectual health of this community and downvote.
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lifeisstillgoodover 8 years ago
I would prefer to see policies that will cost soros his money:<p>- weapons cannot be sold to countries we do not have reciprocal defence agreements with<p>- weapon and oil sanctions are enforced globally<p>- a decade long investment of around 5% of world GDP increasing energy efficiency, at the same time as building electricity pipelines to take solar from tropical zones to rest of world and an end to oil pipelines<p>- end to oil subsidies globally<p>- global agreements on water rights between countries, on investment and policy for efficient (drip) water use in agriculture<p>Grief, that&#x27;s just off top of my head and is probably only half the problem. Basically if we can do all that, Soros will lose his wedge. I doubt he would mind too much.
rdtscover 8 years ago
Heh, I just made a joke in another thread about how I like to imagine sometimes people like Soros are actually hidden ultra-conservatives. They promote pro-immigration policies because it is the most robust way to turn West Europeans towards conservatism and nationalism.<p>If one indeed wanted to achieve that goal, I couldn&#x27;t think of a faster way.<p>At this rate, we&#x27;ll probably see walls built in Europe before we see Trump&#x27;s wall over here.
MaggieLover 8 years ago
&quot;Investing in migrants&quot; is an incredibly cheap way to buy votes.
kyrreover 8 years ago
Soros seems to have a hand in everything...
dovdovover 8 years ago
&quot;I will invest in startups, established companies, social-impact initiatives and businesses founded by migrants and refugees themselves.&quot;<p>Delusion pro!<p>Sure there will be talented people, but they&#x27;ll find a way, it&#x27;s still nice they&#x27;ll get help getting funded,<p>but what about the masses who come for social benefits, and don&#x27;t really wish to work during their lifetime.<p>Not to mention the lack of single f*ck they give about European culture.<p>Come back and live in Europe Soros papa, THEN have it as your playground.
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puranjayover 8 years ago
Have no knowledge of Mr. Soros&#x27; policies or public stance on issues, but I ask: why is there even a need for a separate fund for migrants?<p>From what I know, investors are driven by profit, not be ethnicity. If a business has potential to turn a profit, I don&#x27;t think any VC would want to turn away.<p>At least that&#x27;s how things work for some of my Indian friends in the Valley. No one has ever denied them investment because they were immigrants.
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readittwiceover 8 years ago
IMHO he will be one of the people responsible for radically limitting the human right of asylum and the rise of right-wings all over Europe. Asylum once was a nice idea, but right now it is misused for mass-immigration in Europe.
desdivover 8 years ago
The &quot;web&quot; link isn&#x27;t working me (on my setup at this particular moment). It just returns HN pages and old stories. If you experience the same problem, google:<p><i>Why I’m Investing $500 Million in Migrants I will invest in startups, established companies...</i><p>Which is the story title + subtitle.
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jlebrechover 8 years ago
I would invest in a fortified city in the middle east with added security and let people flee war there instead of having to go all the way to western countries. there they&#x27;ll be able to claim asylum to their country of choice and when they are given a visa they&#x27;ll get a free flight there.
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0xmohitover 8 years ago
I guess that wsj links are invariably paywalled. Can&#x27;t HN stop such links from being submitted?
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edderlyover 8 years ago
wsj.com Why I’m Investing $500 Million in Migrants George Soros Sept. 20, 2016 12:00 a.m. ET<p>The world has been unsettled by a surge in forced migration. Tens of millions of people are on the move, fleeing their home countries in search of a better life abroad. Some are escaping civil war or an oppressive regime; others are forced out by extreme poverty, lured by the possibility of economic advancement for themselves and their families.<p>Our collective failure to develop and implement effective policies to handle the increased flow has contributed greatly to human misery and political instability—both in countries people are fleeing and in the countries that host them, willingly or not. Migrants are often forced into lives of idle despair, while host countries fail to reap the proven benefit that greater integration could bring.<p>Governments must play the leading role in addressing this crisis by creating and sustaining adequate physical and social infrastructure for migrants and refugees. But harnessing the power of the private sector is also critical.<p>Recognizing this, the Obama administration recently launched a “Call to Action” asking U.S. companies to play a bigger role in meeting the challenges posed by forced migration. Today, private-sector leaders are assembling at the United Nations to make concrete commitments to help solve the problem.<p>In response, I have decided to earmark $500 million for investments that specifically address the needs of migrants, refugees and host communities. I will invest in startups, established companies, social-impact initiatives and businesses founded by migrants and refugees themselves. Although my main concern is to help migrants and refugees arriving in Europe, I will be looking for good investment ideas that will benefit migrants all over the world.<p>This commitment of investment equity will complement the philanthropic contributions my foundations have made to address forced migration, a problem we have been working on globally for decades and to which we have dedicated significant financial resources.<p>We will seek investments in a variety of sectors, among them emerging digital technology, which seems especially promising as a way to provide solutions to the particular problems that dislocated people often face. Advances in this sector can help people gain access more efficiently to government, legal, financial and health services. Private businesses are already investing billions of dollars to develop such services for non-migrant communities.<p>This is why money now moves instantaneously from one mobile wallet to another, drivers find customers by using only a cellphone, and how a doctor in North America can see a patient in Africa in real time. Customizing and extending these innovations to serve migrants will help improve the quality of life for millions around the world.<p>All of the investments we make will be owned by my nonprofit organization. They are intended to be successful—because I want to show how private capital can play a constructive role helping migrants—and any profits will go to fund programs at the Open Society Foundations, including programs that benefit migrants and refugees.<p>As longtime champions of civil society, we will be focused on ensuring that our investments lead to products and services that truly benefit migrants and host communities.<p>We will also work closely with organizations such as the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees and the International Rescue Committee to establish principles to guide our investments. Our goal is to harness, for public good, the innovations that only the private sector can provide.<p>I hope my commitment will inspire other investors to pursue the same mission.<p>Mr. Soros is chairman of Soros Fund Management LLC and founder of the Open Society Foundations.
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