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Kansas couple who live in a ‘digital hell’ sue mapping company MaxMind

62 pointsby microsageover 8 years ago

7 comments

mxfhover 8 years ago
This is a follow-up to an earlier article by the author; maybe you want to start reading up on this here:<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fusion.net&#x2F;story&#x2F;287592&#x2F;internet-mapping-glitch-kansas-farm&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;fusion.net&#x2F;story&#x2F;287592&#x2F;internet-mapping-glitch-kansa...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11466849" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=11466849</a>
cstrossover 8 years ago
This isn&#x27;t an isolated problem; it comes up in other contexts as well. Consider the default zero-zero GPS coordinates (and use an app for plane or shipping tracking to look at it). It&#x27;s about 200 miles off the coast of Africa and there are thousands of dodgy transponders identifying various vessels as being located there.<p>And then there was this deplorable incident ( <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.freerepublic.com&#x2F;focus&#x2F;news&#x2F;653846&#x2F;posts" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.freerepublic.com&#x2F;focus&#x2F;news&#x2F;653846&#x2F;posts</a> ) in which changing the batteries in a special forces&#x27; air controller&#x27;s GPS receiver caused it to reset and display its current location rather than the previously dialled in coordinates of a target, resulting in a fatal friendly fire incident.<p>Moral of story; if you&#x27;re building a geolocation database or application of any kind it&#x27;s a <i>really good idea</i> to ensure that the default values it returns in event of a reset or a query with inadequate input parameters points somewhere harmless or pointedly asks, &quot;are you sure about that?&quot;
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kiehlsterover 8 years ago
I still ask the question, why use default GPS coordinates? Even after moving the default to a nearby lake, there&#x27;s still a large chance that police and investigators are going to prowl around the lake trying to find whoever&#x27;s house lays claim to the center of the lake. Why not have defaults return invalid or perhaps a square box instead of a point? Moving the point around isn&#x27;t going to fix the root of the problem.
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nullthanksover 8 years ago
MaxMind does not say their IP info is good to even a city BLOCK level, much less an address. Law enforcement is using the data all wrong.<p>I&#x27;ve used max mind 5 days a week for years and have never seen this effect.<p>People watch too much CSI. That&#x27;s not Maxminds fault.<p>LEO <i>should</i> be contacting the ISP to get warrants for the customer&#x2F;ip records. The ISP should know who had what IP when. And the ISP knows where that customer lives because of reasons.<p>tl;dr - maxmind did nothing wrong, LEO watches too much CSI
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whamlastxmasover 8 years ago
TLDR: MaxMind uses the coordinates of their home as the default view. Meaning when law enforcement enters an address but fails to actually submit it, it shows their home.
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FrancoDiazover 8 years ago
This went on for 5 years? I would have hired a lawyer after the first incident and been interrogating the cops on why this is going on.
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marmot777over 8 years ago
Yes, and I hope to god they win!