TE
TechEcho
Home24h TopNewestBestAskShowJobs
GitHubTwitter
Home

TechEcho

A tech news platform built with Next.js, providing global tech news and discussions.

GitHubTwitter

Home

HomeNewestBestAskShowJobs

Resources

HackerNews APIOriginal HackerNewsNext.js

© 2025 TechEcho. All rights reserved.

Evaluating a job offer?

13 pointsby csmajorfiveabout 17 years ago
Hi guys, I'm about to take my first job out of college/grad school and I don't really know how to evaluate my offers and whether it's appropriate to haggle. Also what are some good resources to learn about the mechanics of stocks, vesting, etc?

7 comments

ardit33about 17 years ago
It is always good to hagle, but with good spirit, and as long as you are reasonable in your request.<p>Say something in the tune: I like your company, and I would love to work with you guys, but on the compesation part your offer was in the low range. I got an offer from another company, which I like too, and that was 10k higher and I can't just ignore it. I'd like for you guys to come close to it.<p>They might come back with 5k more, or not. The best position to be, is when you have more than one good choice, and have hard time to decide which one to take. you have a lot of bargaining power, (psychologically), as you can walk away from an offer.<p>Compesation is not everything, what you do matters to. As for stock options, unless you are one of the first employees of the company, and you are being offered a good chunk of options, they really don't matter. If you are joining a company that is 50+ people, than most likeley options will be insignificat (unless it was something like a future google or youtube, which is highly unlikeley).<p>If you are joining the average startup, those options will take four year to vest, and they probably wont be worth much. Actually, there is greater chance they will be worth nothing. So, don't compromise your salary for those options. Consider them just as a bonus, or perk. Usually, you have no bargaining power over how much stock options you get (assuming you are joining a mid size 50+ employees company). They often are set by the board, and divided way before (e.g software engineers get this much of options, senior engineers get more, etc...).
评论 #126149 未加载
mrtronabout 17 years ago
The best advice I received was to not focus on money early on as a way of determining what job you take.<p>Focus on what you will be doing, who you will be working from and so forth. Programming is a skill where a experienced coworker can help you progress rapidly.
csmajorfiveabout 17 years ago
Thanks guys. The situation is I've got a couple of very similar offers from companies in the &#60; 50 employee range. One is probably 30 people and the other is nearing the 50 line. Both companies are in the bay area and about a year old. Both positions are for software engineering.<p>As for haggling, the thing is -- they're both good offers. I can't reasonably expect more out of school and they're pretty much identical so I'd be bluffing if I said "well I have a better offer.." I just want to know whether I'm expected to try no matter what.
评论 #126311 未加载
评论 #126220 未加载
edw519about 17 years ago
Negotiate a 6 month review instead of the usual one year. If you're any good, you'll get your first raise 6 months early. You may want to say something like, "The salary is not quite what I was hoping for, but I want to get started here so badly, I'm willing to accept it. I plan to do such good work that we'll both see that a 6 month review makes sense." How can they say no to that?
评论 #126208 未加载
theremoraabout 17 years ago
here is some basic negotiation advice <a href="http://jobhacks.wordpress.com/2007/08/08/offer-negotiation-the-sht-hits-the-fan/" rel="nofollow">http://jobhacks.wordpress.com/2007/08/08/offer-negotiation-t...</a><p>regarding the comment to mention another offer, that is cool if you really have one. It wasn't clear if the poster was recommending a "bluff" which is not a good idea at all. More important than the offer is how will the experience increase your value in the market. <a href="http://jobhacks.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/career-equity/" rel="nofollow">http://jobhacks.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/career-equity/</a>
评论 #126142 未加载
theremoraabout 17 years ago
regarding options and anaylysis, Venture Hacks is an excellent resource, here is a specific post <a href="http://venturehacks.com/articles/option-pool-shuffle#more-11" rel="nofollow">http://venturehacks.com/articles/option-pool-shuffle#more-11</a>
mpcabout 17 years ago
location? what will you be doing?