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Introducing a new kind of Wi-Fi system

158 pointsby rmanalanover 8 years ago

21 comments

mikecbover 8 years ago
Just for everyone focusing on gimmicky features, this is an OnHub, which are intended to just work.<p>Under the hood, they run ChromiumOS, including things like trusted boot (yes, this home router has a tpm), and the A&#x2F;B partitions so when you get an automatic update, (which happens during a time of low bandwidth usage), it reboots into the new version in about 6 seconds. The security team is awesome: they pushed an update to all onhubs within 48 hours of public disclosure of a critical RCE earlier this year.<p>There has been some slowness to expected features, like ipv6, but the PMs have been clear about their goal: they won&#x27;t include a feature that&#x27;s buggy. It&#x27;s exactly what you want in a piece of infrastructure.
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Animatsover 8 years ago
Lots of vendors already offer this. It&#x27;s pretty standard for commercial WiFi units. It&#x27;s just slightly more expensive than dumb routers.<p>* Eero: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eero.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eero.com&#x2F;</a><p>* Ubuquiti: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ubnt.com" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ubnt.com</a><p>* Cisco: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cisco.com" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cisco.com</a> (sized for larger buildings)<p>Does this new Google device come with the Google Fi feature which backhauls all your traffic to Google via a VPN?
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calinet6over 8 years ago
Serious question: whose WiFi is not working, to the degree that they think, &quot;I really need to get a modern router to make this Internet thing actually work.&quot;<p>I&#x27;m seeing about a dozen fancy modern wifi routers all trying to solve a problem I&#x27;m not sure exists.
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biotover 8 years ago
Despite their claims of being designed for user privacy, I&#x27;m wary of anything Google puts out. What information does it report back to the mothership?
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eridiusover 8 years ago
I&#x27;m surprised nobody here has yet questioned the wisdom of allowing Google access to literally all of your internet traffic. This is actually a commercial product that you pay money for, so maybe they&#x27;re all aboveboard here, but with Google&#x27;s history of trying to get as much personal data as possible about everybody makes me unwilling to trust them with something like this.<p>On a different note, is there any reason why someone should prefer this to Ubiquiti&#x27;s AmpliFi? Unlike Google, Ubiquiti has a long history of making networking gear. The only obvious benefit I see right now is Google Wifi starts at $129 for one unit whereas AmpliFi starts at $199, but that $199 includes 2 &quot;mesh points&quot; and presumably to get the same effect with Google Wifi you&#x27;d have to shell out $299 for the 3-pack.
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rmanalanover 8 years ago
I just bought an OnHub last year. WTF Google?!
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throw7over 8 years ago
I&#x27;m a little concerned that an android device is listed as _required_... i would hope all functions of the wifi devices can be configured&#x2F;administrated from the web or just an internal browser pointed to the device(s).
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spullaraover 8 years ago
My Airports work just fine and have worked for years. I think that the WiFi issues are mostly that people are only willing to pay like $50 for their WiFi router. At this price point I&#x27;m not sure it changes anything.
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dorianmover 8 years ago
I actually just got a &quot;Wi-Fi booster&quot;[1] for my place to have good Wi-Fi upstairs and it&#x27;s amazing (it even has an ethernet port)<p>[1]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.fr&#x2F;Netgear-WN3000RP-200FRS-R%C3%A9p%C3%A9teur-Wifi-N300&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B00MWNWEIE&#x2F;ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1475607805&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=wifi+booster" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.fr&#x2F;Netgear-WN3000RP-200FRS-R%C3%A9p%C3%A9...</a>
andrewpeover 8 years ago
Anyone notice they are using their new TLD?
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vikiomega9over 8 years ago
I guess the lay persons question at this point is why not just publish the software and dispel any notion of privacy infringement?
mariusz79over 8 years ago
The list of features is missing one important item - Using these we will be better able to monitor your indoor whereabouts.
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ebf6over 8 years ago
&gt; The system uses a technology called mesh Wi-Fi (something usually only seen in expensive commercial installations).<p>This is misleading. You can create your own mesh networks with several off-the-shelf routers &#x2F; access points using open source software like batman-advanced [0].<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.open-mesh.org&#x2F;projects&#x2F;batman-adv&#x2F;wiki" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.open-mesh.org&#x2F;projects&#x2F;batman-adv&#x2F;wiki</a>
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bakman329over 8 years ago
The problems with this are the same as the rest of the things announced today(except the pixel, in my opinion): Too expensive, and not much to set it apart.
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millstoneover 8 years ago
I&#x27;ve used my Airport Express to extend my Airport Base Station for years. Is this &quot;mesh networking?&quot; How is Google WiFi different?
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cynixover 8 years ago
Why are all these mesh Wi-Fi products (Google Wifi, Eero, UBNT AmpliFi, ...) only available in the US?
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obrienmdover 8 years ago
Anyone know if this is going to make use of modern AQM (fq_codel or cake) like OnHub did? OnHub used the Qualcomm brand name for it: &quot;Streamboost&quot;.
SamuelAdamsover 8 years ago
How is Mesh networking different from a wireless repeater? Yes, there&#x27;s a nicer UI for this, but are there any technical advantages?
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spynxicover 8 years ago
Mesh-based Device Triangulation
Aprecheover 8 years ago
You can tell this product is made by people who live in suburban McMansions. In a 1 BR NYC apartment, you have no problems with wifi coverage.
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bikamonkiover 8 years ago
Introducing a new way to spy on you? A WiFi repeater will do the trick...