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Differentiable Neural Computers

289 pointsby tonybeltramelliover 8 years ago

9 comments

rkaplanover 8 years ago
This paper builds off of DeepMind&#x27;s previous work on differentiable computation: Neural Turing Machines. That paper generated a lot of enthusiasm when it came out in 2014, but not many researchers use NTMs today.<p>The feeling among researchers I&#x27;ve spoken to is not that NTMs aren&#x27;t useful. DeepMind is simply operating on another level. Other researchers don&#x27;t understand the intuitions behind the architecture well enough to make progress with it. But it seems like DeepMind, and specifically Alex Graves (first author on NTMs and now this), can.
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IanCalover 8 years ago
Does anyone have a readcube link&#x2F;similar for the paper?<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;nature&#x2F;journal&#x2F;vaop&#x2F;ncurrent&#x2F;full&#x2F;nature20101.html" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nature.com&#x2F;nature&#x2F;journal&#x2F;vaop&#x2F;ncurrent&#x2F;full&#x2F;natu...</a>
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dharma1over 8 years ago
Waiting for Schmidhuber to pipe up that he wrote about something similar in -93 and Alex Graves was his student anyway
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tvuralover 8 years ago
The idea of using neural networks to do what humans can already write code to do seems a bit wrong-headed. Why would you take a system that&#x27;s human-readable, fast, and easy to edit, and make it slow, opaque, and very hard to edit? The big wins for ml have all been things that people couldn&#x27;t write code to do, like image recognition.
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orthoganolover 8 years ago
It appears they are touting &#x27;memory&#x27; as the key new feature, but I know at least in the deep learning NLP world there already exists models with &#x27;memory&#x27;, like LSTMs or RNNs with dynamic memory or &#x27;attention.&#x27; I can&#x27;t imagine this model is too radically different than the others.<p>Maybe I just feel a bit uneasy with a claim such as:<p>&gt; We hope DNCs provide a new metaphor for cognitive science and neuroscience.
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tim333over 8 years ago
I wonder how close these differentiable neural computers are functionally to cortical columns in the brain that are &quot;are often thought of as the basic repeating functional units of the neocortex.&quot; (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Neocortex#Cortical_columns" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Neocortex#Cortical_columns</a>)
carapaceover 8 years ago
(What the hell with the thin grey sans-serif body text font? Seriously, do you hate your readers&#x27; eyes that much?)
partycoderover 8 years ago
I wonder if they will put this to use in their StarCraft bot.
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outsidelineover 8 years ago
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Bio-inspired_computing" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Bio-inspired_computing</a><p>Present day Neuron models lack an incredible number of functional features that are clearly present in the human brain.<p>NTMs = representing memory that is stored in neurons <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Neuronal_memory_allocation" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Neuronal_memory_allocation</a><p>Decoupled Neural Interfaces using Synthetic Gradients = <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Electrochemical_gradient" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Electrochemical_gradient</a><p>Differentiable Neural Computers = Won&#x27;t specify what natural aspect of the brain this derives from.<p>Pick an aspect of a neuron or the brain that isn&#x27;t modeled, write a model...<p><i>Bleeding edge + Operating on another level</i><p>The fact that someone is going out of there way to remove points from my posts so that this doesn&#x27;t see tomorrow&#x27;s foot traffic instead of replying and critiquing me just goes to show how truthful these statements are.<p>Anyone can create such models. No one has a monopoly or patent on how the brain functions. Thus, expect many models and approaches.. Some better than others.<p>You can down-vote all you want. The better model and architecture wins this game. It would help the community if people were honest about what&#x27;s going on here but people instead want to believe in magic and subscribe to the idea that only a specific group of people are writing biologically inspired software and are capable authoring a model of what is clearly documented in the human brain. Interesting that this is the reception.
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