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UK Government proposes porn-viewing ID

162 pointsby wjh_over 8 years ago

22 comments

pmlnrover 8 years ago
&gt; &quot;all the porn sites operating in Britain&quot;<p>So... only .co.uk, or full 3&#x2F;4 of the internet, including Tumblr?<p>This is, of course, is a question for what counts as &quot;operating in Britain&quot;. A site that is running on servers in Britain? A site that is owned by a British company? A site that happens to be available on the greater internet?<p>Gosh, countries and borders became relics when the internet got spread wide enough.
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Red_Tarsiusover 8 years ago
Government&#x27;s entitlement over human life is staggering. It&#x27;s patently obvious they are going to use the data to shame, blackmail and accuse dissidents at will. &#x27;<i>Think of the children</i>&#x27; is not going to suffice.<p>If past behaviour is any predictor of future behaviour, your data is going to be exploited by private citizens as well. What could go wrong?<p><i>«The case exposed inadequate safeguards against abuse, including warnings to staff not to use the databases created to house these vast collections of data to search for and&#x2F;or access information ‘about other members of staff, neighbours, friends, acquaintances, family members and public figures’. Internal oversight failed, with highly sensitive databases treated like Facebook to check on birthdays, and very worryingly on family members for ‘personal reasons’.»</i> – <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;privacy-international&#x2F;press-release-new-court-judgment-finds-uk-surveillance-agencies-collected-everyones-e3f037a0b901#.bh5cibx3u" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;privacy-international&#x2F;press-release-new-c...</a>
mobiuscogover 8 years ago
&lt;dons flameproof suit&gt;<p>Something has to be done. It&#x27;s not just about porn or violence of NSFL etc... but there is a serious problem on the internet, that is always lambasted with the &quot;Won&#x27;t somebody think of the children&quot; memes.<p>When society has reached a point that anybody with internet access can, simply by &#x27;accidentally&#x27; going to the wrong website, be exposed to imagery that really is not going to help them be well-adjusted in life, without any safeguards in place, there is something wrong.<p>Whilst there are privacy concerns regarding any ID situation, nobody seems to be trying to solve the problem in other ways, short of limiting internet access (which causes other outcries).<p>I&#x27;m all for a better solution, but nobody seems to be proposing one.<p>(For the moment, as a parent, my young daughter doesn&#x27;t get any unaccompanied internet access - I am thinking of my child)<p>How <i>do</i> we solve this problem ?<p>Edit: It&#x27;s interesting to note diminishing points for a post that asks how to solve a problem. Obviously some people feel very strongly that even questioning the situation is wrong.
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p333347over 8 years ago
Not sure of the (technical) feasibility of this, but I have some social observations.<p>It seems the motivating factor, ostensibly, is to protect children. However, the primary concern of those who don&#x27;t like this seems to be with leaks and possible ensuing shaming. So, if the stigma attached to watching (non illegal) porn is done away with, the fear of leak becomes irrelevant. If protecting children is paramount then society must do away with silly witch hunts and being so anal (no pun intended).<p>While we are at it, why restrict to porn and why not extend to all things abusive to kids, including violence, racism, stupid stunts and pranks etc referenced by many other posters? Seems porn gets targeted almost always! imagine if porn were a person in the west, they would have sued the heck out of everyone.
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pmlnrover 8 years ago
The more I think about it the more I&#x27;m starting to think that this is how you make an army of generic hackers. Want $X? Learn to circumvent the system!
throw2016over 8 years ago
The puritans are back. Here is a better idea, implement a vote-id so responsible adults can dismiss such inane ideas and recall offending MPs without delay so matters of the state can be attended to.<p>There only way we can realistically rehash the debate on pornography and entertain the idea that sufficient controls don&#x27;t exist and are in some cases not practical or reasonable is by being intentionally obtuse and disingenious.<p>The idea that we can even consider implementing an adult-id for an entire population before considering its use for more effective democracy is telling of our current priorities and the complete reduction of the enlightenment of western democracy to a crude form of corporatocracy and control systems.
dintechover 8 years ago
Government, this is VPN. VPN, meet government. You guys aren&#x27;t going to get along but I thought you should know about each other.
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ascendantlogicover 8 years ago
Every time I think about the insanity going on here in the US, I just remind myself that the insanity in the UK is worse.
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abdiasover 8 years ago
Why don&#x27;t UK government leave that responsibility to the <i>parents</i> which are to decide what their children are allowed to watch or not. In the old Soviet the communists very much wanted government to replace both parents and God - seems like that idea has gotten new fuel in the UK.
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jonnys1over 8 years ago
This is quite disturbing to say the least. Seems like everyone learns from china and starts build great internet walls!
the_mitsuhikoover 8 years ago
I find it impressive that the UK people trust their government so much even to the point where they are happy to leave the EU to give it more power. That seems questionable.
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retoxover 8 years ago
Parents are not responsible?
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another_accountover 8 years ago
First they came for the Socialists...
dajohnson89over 8 years ago
Does anyone have any ideas how likely this will actually become law? Crazy laws get proposed here in America all the time. From what I&#x27;ve seen by watching the Prime Minister&#x27;s questions every now and then, lots of far-fetched proposals are made across the pond as well. But they never get far, and not worth getting bothered about.
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BrentOzarover 8 years ago
Suddenly, 007 takes on a whole new meaning.
akerroover 8 years ago
Will it replace driving licences or passports?
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eonwover 8 years ago
this didnt work for germany, wont work for the UK either. most of the &quot;porn&quot; companies in the UK are only there to make use of tax advantages and billing, they are just shells that allow the parent company to move money through the UK to tax havens and mitigate risks. very very few porn companies are truly based in the UK, which means none will follow the rules.
jlebrechover 8 years ago
way to criminalise porn and make it go underground.
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ameliusover 8 years ago
Shouldn&#x27;t we restrict&#x2F;control the consumption of violent movies and video games first?
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akerroover 8 years ago
New and modern instant messengers download and show preview of websites automatically. Any ideas if this can be somehow abused?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theantisocialengineer.com&#x2F;imessage-preview-problems&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theantisocialengineer.com&#x2F;imessage-preview-problems&#x2F;</a>
titzerover 8 years ago
Download as much as you can now and put it on an encrypted harddisk. Or move.
lostforestover 8 years ago
I have long thought it would be a great idea to force all pornographic material into a porn TLD, say .xxx<p>To access .xxx, you would submit your name, address, proof of age to whomever runs the regime and be given access. Sharing pornography should be a crime, especially if shared with minors. In a perfect world... Since we don&#x27;t live in a perf3ct world, I&#x27;d be happy to see a forced TLD. Violators lose rights to any and all domains in perpetuity and are forbidden to start new ones. A 1M fine should suffice.<p>It&#x27;s a proven fact pornography harms everyone involved. Men who are chronic users suffer impotence issues with real women. Pornography demeans women and lowers them to the status of sex machines, there only for the enjoyment of men. Women that are lured into the industry suffer horrendous self-esteem issues, die young, suffer from diseases, some fatal, and are reviled if&#x2F;when they escape the industry. Not a good scene no matter how you slice it.
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