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The New San Francisco Suburbs, a Plane Ride Away

47 pointsby jmillerincabout 15 years ago

8 comments

hugh3about 15 years ago
I visited Portland for the first time last month, and was struck by how much it reminded me of San Francisco minus the worst things about San Francisco.<p>1. San Francisco is a right bastard to get around since the various districts are spread out and separated by huge hills. Portland is easily walkable.<p>2. San Francisco has slow, dirty, overpriced public transport. Portland has a convenient light rail system which is free in the downtown core area, and drops you right at the airport for a buck fifty.<p>3. San Francisco is filthy. Portland is clean. San Francisco has aggressive panhandlers and crazy people everywhere, Portland somehow keeps most of 'em out.<p>4. San Francisco is insanely expensive and only those earning multi-hundred-K a year can afford to actually buy there. Portland is nice and cheap.<p>5. San Francisco has great scenery which is spoiled by tourists. Portland has perfectly adequate scenery which isn't.<p>Another nice thing: no sales tax. That means that you wind up paying what it says on the label and don't have to do the "compute in head and fumble with loose change" thing. Plus they've got good food, funky bars, and a classic video game arcade.<p>What they unfortunately don't have is a first-rate university, or anywhere else that might be likely to employ me.
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Empactabout 15 years ago
This is a how a once-venerable tech city loses its significance. Suffocated by incompetent governments and an unwillingness to build, talent is forced to move elsewhere and ultimately shifts the center of gravity toward their chosen destinations.<p>I for one look forward to Portland, Austin and the rest picking up where San Francisco left off.
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groanerabout 15 years ago
Somewhat OT, but I got weirded out by the story for a moment. It turns out that Scott McNeely != Scott McNealy (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_McNealy" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_McNealy</a> -- who almost certainly does not have any money woes whatsoever)
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iamelgringoabout 15 years ago
It's not just in high tech that you're seeing that either. I work with several nurses that commute in from Houston, Austin and Portland. They make more working 12 hour shifts for 6 days in a row in the Bay area than they can make working a whole month in their home towns.
donaldcabout 15 years ago
Another advantage with the locations of Seattle and Portland in particular is that they're in the same time zone as Silicon Valley.
fretlessjazzabout 15 years ago
The next San Francisco suburb? Austin Texas.
apiabout 15 years ago
The hyperinflation of coastal real estate and the super-concentration of talent in these places is getting absurd and insane.
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jckarterabout 15 years ago
The Northwest needs jobs, not parasites further inflating its real estate market. How about you move some companies up there too?
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