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They Live and the secret history of the Mozilla logo

87 pointsby MzHNover 8 years ago

6 comments

probably_wrongover 8 years ago
For those like me who get redirected based on the referrer, here&#x27;s a web archive mirror: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;UMMCx" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;UMMCx</a><p>Alternatively, you can copy-paste the address and open in a different window.
onliover 8 years ago
Great story. Sadly, by the time I got to know Firefox (and thus Mozilla) the dino logo just looked strange, and seeing the pictures like that it becomes clear why: You really need to make that your design to make it work. It shouldn&#x27;t be the one small glimpse of the past.<p>See <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.mozilla.org&#x2F;opendesign&#x2F;now-for-the-fun-part&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blog.mozilla.org&#x2F;opendesign&#x2F;now-for-the-fun-part&#x2F;</a> for some additional context. There is one small nod to the old design, but nothing picking it up. Or look like <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.mozilla.org&#x2F;en-US&#x2F;</a> looks now. That&#x27;s the note on the dino:<p>&gt; <i>The classic Mozilla dino head logo served as a symbol of the organization since our earliest days, but is now reserved for select uses and executions only. While you may still see it pop up on certain sites and campaigns, please use the Mozilla wordmark on all properties and materials instead.</i><p>A bit sad. A complete sovjet union dino mozilla with the current web design refinement would be awesome (^for some definition of awesome).
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ominousover 8 years ago
Maybe there&#x27;s a reason, but why is this linked to webcache, and not jwz? Is this a common practice?<p>edit: on topic, liked the article, thank you.
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cs702over 8 years ago
When I clicked on the link, my browser was redirected to: <a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;32R3qLv" rel="nofollow">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;imgur.com&#x2F;32R3qLv</a><p>It seems there was too much traffic coming to jwz&#x27;s site coming from HN.<p>Apparently, Jamie Zawinski has strong opinions about HN.
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RRRAover 8 years ago
hahaha thank you jwz for that imgur
teddyhover 8 years ago
He neglects to mention some points, which most people probably would get the wrong idea about if they read only his text: The first commonly-usable web browser (since it was written for then-common graphical Unix workstations, MacOS, Windows and Amiga) was actually NCSA Mosaic¹, written by NCSA (National Center for Supercomputing Applications), commonly known as “Mosaic”, and was, like much of their other well-known software²³, released with source code under a non-commercial license. <i>Netscape</i> was a later company which was writing a <i>proprietary</i> web browser, and the name “Mozilla” was created because this new web browser was supposed to be a “Mosaic killer”; a “Godzilla” for Mosaic. It was supposed to stop people from using Mosaic and instead use this new proprietary program.<p>① <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Mosaic_(web_browser)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Mosaic_(web_browser)</a><p>② Before the web, NCSA had released good free software versions of TELNET for various platforms.<p>③ NCSA also wrote and released a web server, which was later patched and re-patched by the Internet community so much that the project name was changed to “A patchy server”; i.e. “Apache”.
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