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Does your mind jump around, stay on task or get stuck?

260 pointsby upenover 8 years ago

17 comments

slowmovintargetover 8 years ago
<p><pre><code> My mind went for a walk the other day. It returned after a time with such mixed company, That I thought maybe it had lost its way. The new notions, though, they mixed with old. They composed and compiled, assembled and then beguiled, Until I saw my mind had been quite bold. It went off in willing pursuit with glee, The shadows and crisp light of wanton understanding. I am quite glad it brought such back to me.</code></pre>
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narratorover 8 years ago
I get sick of working after a while and then I go read Hacker News again. Then I go back to work, or get a coffee.<p>Lately, I&#x27;ve started doing Khan Academy&#x27;s &quot;World of Math&quot; while I wait for builds or tests or deploys. It&#x27;s basically over 1000 exercises that encompass all of math you&#x27;d learn if you weren&#x27;t a math major: from counting up through differential equations. Some of it is absurdly easy, some of it is a nice refresher, a few things I forgot how to do and there is of course a perfect explanation included. It&#x27;s possible to make meaningful progress in a minute or two, so perfect for those little build breaks.<p>Generally when I get stuck I go into emacs org mode and just use it to brainstorm about what to do next. If that doesn&#x27;t work I close my eyes and try and meditate for 30 seconds before trying again.
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norea-armozelover 8 years ago
I&#x27;m naturally scatterbrained I swear. I&#x27;ll be reading HN about half the time I&#x27;m working. I&#x27;m not sure why I need to switch between it and my other tasks at work. It&#x27;s just something I do I guess. I can focus when I have to but honestly nothing keeps me focused for long unless I&#x27;m really interested in it. Like I can read the Wikipedia for hours on history of the Reconquista but God help me I can&#x27;t focus on a boring lecture of the same subject.
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markpapadakisover 8 years ago
John Carmack&#x27;s said &quot;Focus is a matter of deciding what not to do&quot;. I think that quote describes a fairly efficient heuristic for keeping your mind focused.
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infiniteparamtrover 8 years ago
Whenever Elon Musk answers questions about how to learn as effectively as he has over the years, he routinely says &quot;my process isolation isn&#x27;t what it used to be.&quot;<p>I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;ve ever had or ever will have any capacity to isolate a process and complete a large project.
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juntoover 8 years ago
Not surprisingly, my mind can be completely focused for hours when I&#x27;m doing something I want to do. If it&#x27;s something I don&#x27;t want to do, then not so much.
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_98fjover 8 years ago
&gt; <i>For example, their review of brain-imaging studies found that when the brain was focused on a task at hand, its prefrontal “executive” network, which governs planning and impulse control, among other functions, constrains other brain activity.</i><p>That is the reason why dopamine-raising stimulants actually have a calming function on people with ADHD: they fuel this &quot;suppressing&quot; function of the brain, thus enabling it to calm itself.<p>My theory about ADHD is that there&#x27;s a genetic disposition, where people need to move physically in order to have their dopaminergic systems functioning properly. Probably a bad adaption to our rather stationary lifestyle.<p>On top of that I think that if children are frequently interrupted and confronted with bad emotions they don&#x27;t learn to focus.
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6stringmercover 8 years ago
Yes [1].<p>[1] Varies based on diet, exercise, rest, vitamins, seasonal daylight, supplements and&#x2F;or substances.
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jccalhounover 8 years ago
My first reaction was to be distracted by fact that the headline doesn&#x27;t use an Oxford comma. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Serial_comma" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Serial_comma</a><p>I&#x27;m not sure what this says about me.
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elorantover 8 years ago
When I get stuck I go for a long walk. As for focusing I started meditating and it helped a lot.
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skywhopperover 8 years ago
Not sure how to feel about this article. On the one hand the interview subjects are making good points about the value of neurodiversity and the fact that many disorders are just stronger expressions of typical traits. On the other hand ADHD is labeled a &quot;mental illness&quot; in the opening paragraph. I&#x27;m not sure the writer really absorbed the subject matter.
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pklauslerover 8 years ago
Depends on the environment around me, more than anything else, I guess. Noise is death on concentration.
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zacirvingover 8 years ago
I&#x27;m one of the authors on this paper, and was so happy to hear this thread was going! I&#x27;ve heard about HN from my hacker friends, and it&#x27;s hilarious and flattering to be here!!<p>Seems like you&#x27;ve been having a great discussion. Thank y&#x27;all and stay curious! I&#x27;ll go through the comments and respond where I can.<p>[Edit: thanks to @upen for posting this!!]
adhdthrowover 8 years ago
I fought so hard through every year at school. At home, computers let my mind explode in computer games, 3D realms and unlimited feeling exploring of operating systems and hardware.<p>The only way to control my thoughts and mind was ridiculous amounts of exercise, 1 hour run daily or equivalent and drinking 5 cups of coffee per workday, <i>just to have a normal focus</i>.<p>Somehow, after living a very random 20&#x27;s. I graduated with a bachelor and a master degree. My life was a still a mess, but at least I graduated.<p>Something had to be wrong. The thought had occured to me, is this ADHD, but I surpressed it. Didn&#x27;t want it do be me. Felt agonized over the thought of having a condition, and offended by the character traits that were all exact descriptions of me.<p>At age 32 I kept going at a rock bottom slow pace. Had no job. The occational consulting stint. No proper money in the bank. Everything messy around me, including my head, clean but untidy. Relationship with my girlfriend hanging by a thread.<p>If I was was to stay in the paradigm of trying to get a solid career dayjob, and performing well, something had to change fundamentally. ADHD is real. Get diagnosed if you believe you have it. I waited 7 years before daring to speak to a professional psychiatrist, don&#x27;t do the same as me if you believe you have it!<p>I took the plunge and visited a private Psychiatrist. Nice office, expensive art hanging on the walls, meters of full bookshelves on surrounding the interview area. The guy himself, top notch, understanding and genuinely interested. Through 5 solid sessions, and 2500USD later, I was diagnosed with ADHD level. &quot;For your own sake, it was really fortunate that you came&quot;.<p>I was prescribed Concerta 54Mg (3x 15mg Ritalin daily).<p>My life is now entirely upended and everything has been an incredible improvement in all aspects of my life.<p>- After taking the medication, I was able to focus completely on tasks. Seeing them through, completely focused and analyzing the problems. -- Sequential tasks (doing something from A through to Z) like doing the dishes, cleaning my room, or building a spreadsheet model over 7 hours - no problem. - Frustrated thougts and mild depression over lack of life progress completely evaporated - Before this I couldn&#x27;t get a job. Couldn&#x27;t make it through the interviews. My CV was never good enough et cetera. - After this, I got 5 job interviews with great companies, 2 job offers with high salaries - I now work in the world&#x27;s largest technology &amp; strategy consulting company. - I was just promoted, fast tracked - I just got a raise - My bank now believes in me financially and is about to offer me a mortage to buy an apartment - My diagnosis and medication has given a fantastic life where all my opportunities are within reach. #RealLifeLimitless
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DonHopkinsover 8 years ago
&quot;I&#x27;m trying to think but nothing happens!&quot; -Curly Joe [1]<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=mlejsgxOxrU" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=mlejsgxOxrU</a>
pasbesoinover 8 years ago
My physical health and environment make an enormous -- fundamental -- difference in this.<p>Sooner or later, the psych disciplines are bound to catch on to this. &lt;&#x2F;sarcasm, to greater or lesser degree&gt;
pfistaover 8 years ago
Is there a mirror for the actual review?
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